Shot Marker - Specifically

[DustyRusty]

I'll post this here on the reloading forum because that's what I would use Shot Marker for.
Reloading evaluation.

My friends have these E-Targets called Shot Marker.
I have been reading about them for about a week, and I ordered one.

Because they are always behind on production, I have time to ponder a couple frames for the ShotMarker.
I will only be using mine for 200 yards and 100 yards. I know a few of you on THR have them.

Being old, I would like to keep my frame lightweight. There is a target fence at each impact area.

Any idea's.

 

[jmorris]

If you know you are not going to hit anything, you can make the frame pretty small and portable.






If you are not so sure about your buddies offhand iron sight shooting you can make them larger and they are more precise with a larger frame.



That one has thread inserts in the tubing so all I need is a nut driver to put it together, hauling it in pieces.



Not as compact but still portable and not stressful for one guy to put up.



I want to make a frame that is a trailer or just a skid, so I can move it when I mow but that one hasn't been too much of a whipping, so far.

 

[DustyRusty]

What is the foot print of that bracket? 4" x 4"
When you have time.....
One video I saw was a fellow in Germany who mounted a hanging steel target in front of that expensive electronics box.
Pretty brainy. I was thinking the local welding shop. You're too far from me to drop in.

 

[jmorris]

What is the foot print of that bracket? 4" x 4"

The little one is 2x2 and the big one is 8x8. You need to be more accurate than that and I keep a metric tape measure in that silver box in the back of the mule along with the rest of the stuff, because you have to input the exact measurement in millimeters.

I'll take a photo of it this weekend if I have a chance. I had thought about putting them on a frame around the backstops I have but they seem to need some distance from the noise of bullets impacting the steel may actually be the vibration, I just moved the sensors further away and my issues went away too.

Yeah, I hauled some steel out that time with the big frame, now I just set the important stuff in a ditch behind the frame.

 

[DustyRusty]

The little one is 2x2 and the big one is 8x8

Sorry, I wasn't more specific.
The size of the colored brackets that holds the microphones was what I was wondering about.
And the size of the downrange electronics box also.
Thanks for the help.

 

[papajim2jordan]

You have more nerve that I have.

I'm not trying to be obtuse, just wondering what advantage there is to this thing over the holes that you will make in the paper anyway? I can see .30 cal. bullet holes in the paper @ 175 yd. (local range max) with my old Redfield 6x18, and I'm going to clean up my mess and fetch the targets anyway.

Don't get me wrong, not trying to criticize, just curious.

https://www.pewpewtactical.com/best-spotting-scopes/

 

[Kaldor]

You have more nerve that I have.

I'm not trying to be obtuse, just wondering what advantage there is to this thing over the holes that you will make in the paper anyway? I can see .30 cal. bullet holes in the paper @ 175 yd. (local range max) with my old Redfield 6x18, and I'm going to clean up my mess and fetch the targets anyway.

Don't get me wrong, not trying to criticize, just curious.

https://www.pewpewtactical.com/best-spotting-scopes/

Its stupid simple once you have it setup. You can shoot all day with precision, and never have to change a target. I use a frame that I can carry around and setup, but I have permanent frames for 600 and 1000 yard shooting.

 

[Kaldor]

I'll post this here on the reloading forum because that's what I would use Shot Marker for.
Reloading evaluation.

My friends have these E-Targets called Shot Marker.
I have been reading about them for about a week, and I ordered one.

Because they are always behind on production, I have time to ponder a couple frames for the ShotMarker.
I will only be using mine for 200 yards and 100 yards. I know a few of you on THR have them.

Being old, I would like to keep my frame lightweight. There is a target fence at each impact area.

Any idea's.

For load dev I used paper for many years. It got old and actually made me do a crappy job because I hated hanging a dozen targets. Now its setup the target, fire up the Shotmarker, shoot groups, make notes on the screen and send a screen shot of the target to my Google Photos account. Then clear the target and start over and do it all without having to go change paper. Ive also found it to be invaluable for shooting Satterlee tests as I can track velocity nodes vs where did the bullets group on the target. Not everyone thinks this is needed, but I have found that it can help, and with a Shotmarker you can actually do this easily. This is an example of a Satterlee I shot last summer.

I have several frames, all with different designs, for different purposes.
I have a 2x3 for ease of transport that I use for load dev at 100-300 yards. It fits easily in the back seat of my truck. Its light made from wood and cor-board. Accuracy is fine, as long as you are shooting at the middle of it. @jmorris and I have both noted that if you start shooting more towards the corners of a small target, the holes in the target and the marks on the screen are not in the same place. Larger targets are more accurate per Adam and after some testing, I can believe it.

I also have a few permanent targets across two friends ranges. For a 600 yard targets, they are all 4x4, made from treated 2x4s. One has a cor-board backer that we use 6" stick on pasties, and the other is setup as a shoot thru where I have a 6" steel plate 10' behind the frame as an aiming point. The 1000 yard target is 6x6 2x4s and a 10" steel plate shoot thru as well. For the steel plate setups? We drop a minute out of the scope to preserve the paint on the plate so we always pretty much have a nice clean aiming point for all day shooting. We are only really measuring group size anyway.

 

[R Reed]

I want to get one some day, but its not in my budget in the foreseeable future. However I remember seeing this video from f-class John a few years back on his setup, seemed pretty well thought out, portable, and had some great features.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qnpe3nDBRs

 

[papajim2jordan]

Thanks for the info.

 

[jmorris]

I'm not trying to be obtuse, just wondering what advantage there is to this thing over the holes that you will make in the paper anyway?

You don't need any paper to "see" where the bullets went and you know the order they arrived and what speed they were going when they get there and it's all stored for you.

The largest downfall is that it requires the bullet to be traveling faster than the speed of sound as it passes the sensors.

 

[DustyRusty]

They have a LONG lead time at the manufacturer.
Haven't a clue why that is. May be winter before I see it arrive.

For load dev I used paper for many years. It got old and actually made me do a crappy job because I hated hanging a dozen targets

Traveling on foot across a muddy range is something I'd rather do only twice in a range day.
Once to mount this electronic target frame on the fence forward of the first mound, and once more to retrieve it.
Haven't found any firearms worth buying, so I'll will buy this instead.

The measuring and figuring and logging I have fun doing iwill be way more fun with this gizmo.
Two of my friends have them and have only good things to say about them.

 

[Kaldor]

They have a LONG lead time at the manufacturer.
Haven't a clue why that is. May be winter before I see it arrive.


Traveling on foot across a muddy range is something I'd rather do only twice in a range day.
Once to mount this electronic target frame on the fence forward of the first mound, and once more to retrieve it.
Haven't found any firearms worth buying, so I'll will buy this instead.

The measuring and figuring and logging I have fun doing iwill be way more fun with this gizmo.
Two of my friends have them and have only good things to say about them.

That is the worst part, all the back and forth, even when it's not muddy. Where this system really shines, is that instant feedback. When you start to get out to 600 and no spotting scope in the world can realistically see a 6mm bullet on paper unless conditions are absolutely perfect.

We also use it for confirming wind too. We can guess say 5mph but then take a sighter on the target and then we know instantly how close of a guesstimate we had.

I think I waited 4 months for mine a couple of years ago. I know a lot of ranges are dumping out of other systems like Silver Mountain because they just aren't reliable enough. That will definitely increase lead time.