Shot myself with a .45 caliber last night.

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FWIW - on another gun forum a couple years ago, there was a similar thread by a guy that had accidentally fired a .45 Gold Dot hollowpoint through his leg. He also came out OK IIRC, but the damage was a lot worse.
 
Given that the gun did not discharge during the transition from one person to another, then "friend" really doesn't really have any responsibility here. They gun was taken under control and voluntarily manipulated in an unsafe manner.
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I agree that the bulk of the responsibility lies on the hand that pulled the trigger without clearing the chamber first. He's the one that had the last opportunity to avoid the disaster. That said, I would never give anyone a pistol and say "Here, would you store this for me?" without clearing it myself first. At the very least, I would tell the person what condition the pistol was in. After that, it's his responsibility totally.
 
I would never give anyone a pistol and say "Here, would you store this for me?" without clearing it myself first.
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Hell, I'd probably hand it over with the slide locked open and the mag out ... and do the pre-storage cleaning myself.
 
First off, I'm glad your OK. I always read threads like this to remind me of what can happen, when the rules become somthing you know but don't always follow, so thanks for sharing it with us and I wish you a speedy recovery.




PS It's a good thing that bullet did'nt come out of a 1911 it would have blown your leg clean off. :D
 
A good lesson for us all...check,double check,TRIPLE check,and then assume it's loaded.
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This point has been debated endlessly, but I contend that at the point you have checked, double checked, and triple checked - you may safely point the firearm in directions you would not otherwise (e.g., visually inspecting the bore).
 
This point has been debated endlessly, but I contend that at the point you have checked, double checked, and triple checked - you may safely point the firearm in directions you would not otherwise (e.g., visually inspecting the bore).
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Even then, I'd feel better with an expiration date on that window of opportunity, like if it's been more than a minute since you checked, or if you've put the pistol down since checking, you check it again before looking down the bore.
 
@.38 special - My friend, let us not consider what was said. Let us consider what was shown.


That's a pretty nasty hole there... Through the heart? Dead as hell. Through the head? Dead as hell. Lungs? Prolly gunna die buddy. COM shots would most certainly devastate the target.

Would you agree, OP? Is the 230gr FMJ round in the caliber of .45ACP a potent little bugger or what?
 
You never pick up a gun with out clearing it period.

Is that somehow difficult to understand?
 
To the OP, thanks for posting and you are one very lucky guy. There's a site called 'negligentdischarge.com' where you might want to post your experience. This site has a couple of stories of .45 rounds going AD, and the results were not pretty. Just remember to always:

Drop the mag first,

Then rack the slide

Then visually check.

I'll bet you never forget to do this again! :eek:
 
toivo said:
Even then, I'd feel better with an expiration date on that window of opportunity, like if it's been more than a minute since you checked, or if you've put the pistol down since checking, you check it again before looking down the bore.
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That is what a bore light or fiber-optic gadget is for ... something in the chamber that is blatantly NOT ammunition.
I got a little "J" shaped fiber-optic bore inspection gadget that you just shine a light at. It was under a dollar at the LGS, and I'll be picking upi a few more and adding one to the range box, one to the portable pistol cases, one in the rifle case, etc etc.
 
wonderful post. dont' feel too stupid. we play with dangerous things and there is a certain amount of risk implicit. It would be nice if the human machine was perfectable and did not do stuff like this but it would also be nice if a frog had wings so that he wouldn't bump his butt every time he hoppedl
 
"@.38 special - My friend, let us not consider what was said. Let us consider what was shown.


That's a pretty nasty hole there... Through the heart? Dead as hell. Through the head? Dead as hell. Lungs? Prolly gunna die buddy. COM shots would most certainly devastate the target.

Would you agree, OP? Is the 230gr FMJ round in the caliber of .45ACP a potent little bugger or what? "

I would most definitely agree, and not just with the vitals. The way I got hit was VERY lucky. It's one of the very very few places or ways it could've happened that I wouldn't at the very least be in ICU right now instead of on the computer at home. Just because I'm walking around feeling good didn't shake my faith in the .45 as personal pistol defense round of choice one bit. If the round had been a hollow point, I'd probably be dead....even with the super lucky way I took it. I'm a bigger guy and if I had to guess right now I'd say that 230 gr FMJ RN would've stopped me silly if it hit in the abdomen or higher.
 
I contend that at the point you have checked, double checked, and triple checked - you may safely point the firearm in directions you would not otherwise (e.g., visually inspecting the bore).
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Even then, I'd feel better with an expiration date on that window of opportunity.
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Absolutely. That "window of opportunity" expires for me at the point when any event transpires to interrupt that direct connection between triple-checking and handling the firearm (e.g., a phone call, a bathroom break, etc.)
 
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You never pick up a gun with out clearing it period.

Is that somehow difficult to understand?
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I pick up my firearms without clearing them all the time.
 
"The gun is always loaded, The gun is always loaded, The gun is always loaded..."

Glad you're okay.
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+1 +1; and, if I might add, the gun is always loaded. About 10 years ago I had an AD with a G27. That night, we had company over & my sister in law wanted to see the gun as she was considering what to buy. Like second nature, I dropped out the mag & racked the slide clearing the chamber, handed her the gun, slide locked back. She handled the gun & passed it back, I slapped in the mag, dropped the slide, and put the "unloaded" gun on top of the fridge. After she left, we cleaned up & everyone went to bed. It was probably 2am, I couldn't sleep, so I got up to raid the fridge. Seeing the gun, I grabbed it, sat down & decided to give it a wipe down & oil. I dropped the mag, pointed at the lamp next to me & pulled the trigger to take it down. 135 gr CorBon vaporized a really big lamp. Plaster from the lamp fogged the room, and the flash blinded me. I could not hear, and all I could make out was the wife running downstairs, screaming, assuming I had offed myself. I figured a meteor had fallen through the roof, because NO WAY was that gun loaded. I KNEW it was empty because I had just cleared the gun to show it to company. Since it was 2am, I was too sleepy & familiar with what I was doing to not follow our sacred four laws. They are ALWAYS loaded. Glad you are OK, bud.
 
Ouch, OP, glad you're okay and the damage wasn't any worse....

so far, I've been lucky, no ND's in my 30+ years of shooting, my philosophy/M.O. is as soon as the firearm is out of my hands, the next time I pick it up I *MUST* clear it to verify it's status, even if I only put it down a second ago, the moment my hands leave the weapon, it's assumed that it's loaded, and I clear it the next time I pick it up
 
I don't understand...where did that CorBon come from?
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It came from the mag that he slapped in before putting the gun on top of the fridge. When he dropped the slide, it stripped the top round from the mag and shoved it into the chamber, just like it's supposed to.
 
Glad you are OK.

Rules are in place because we are human and tend to ______ (forget/take shortcuts/become too familiar, fill in your own answer to the blank).

I think that your sharing with us is very brave and shows that you are willing to take the ridicule (if any) in order to help others learn a lesson.

Semi auto weapons, DAO, DAK, DA/SA & SA all have one thing in common, most people, even those not specifically trained, carry loaded or cocked & locked. The trigger of most semi auto's are easier to pull when in condition III than most factory shipped revolvers. It's easier to forget there is a loaded chamber with a semi auto than with a revolver. Last, even when the mag is removed and the slide is racked to remove the loaded round, it is imperative to actually look and feel with the finger that the chamber is unloaded.

I personally carried my MK III in Condition 1 even when on duty, I had learned the Israeli method of racking the slide as it comes out of the holster.

Stolichnaya is a great pain reliever. Especially if kept in the freezer.
 
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