Shotgun for 12 year old girl

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I have a 12 year old granddaughter that wants to start bird hunting.
She is on the small size so I'm thinking 20 ga.
We will be hunting waterfowl over decoys and pheasants.
She has a semi auto 22 so a semi auto would be nice.
I'm thinking a semi auto 20 ga. with a 26" or shorter barrel and maybe a shorter stock.

I haven't bought a new shotgun in about 25 years and I've heard that the quality of some new ones is spotty.

I don't want anything cheap.

I have $1000.00 to spend.

What would you suggest?

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I would look at the Franchi, Benelli, and Berretta. Take your pick on which one you like best. On the used market you might be able get a used m4 which are great guns. For upland though, if there is any interest at all you could put her behind a nice older side by side or over/under. Everybody is focused on tactical stuff now, so the classics are getting less interest and the prices are down a bit... not a lot but a bit.
 
Remington 11-87 20-gauge compact fits the bill, but I can't speak to recent Remington quality. Maybe somebody else can.

Beretta used to make a really nice youth semi-auto 20-gauge, the 390 with adjustable LOP. Unfortunately it has been discontinued for a while, but you might find a nice lightly used one.
 
I have a 12 year old granddaughter that wants to start bird hunting.
She is on the small size so I'm thinking 20 ga.
We will be hunting waterfowl over decoys and pheasants.
She has a semi auto 22 so a semi auto would be nice.
I'm thinking a semi auto 20 ga. with a 26" or shorter barrel and maybe a shorter stock.

I haven't bought a new shotgun in about 25 years and I've heard that the quality of some new ones is spotty.

I don't want anything cheap.

I have $1000.00 to spend.


What would you suggest?

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Look for a Beretta A400, although new will be over your budget, lightly used should be right at your budget. Do NOT go below 28" barrel; these guns are light enough as it is.
Remington 1100 youth, however Remington is going through BK at the moment
Weatherby(and other brands) SA-08
Fabarm L4S might be worth a look as well
Winchester SX4 Compact
 
Franchi 48 AL In 20 is an absolute joy to shoot. The gun is very light too.

My personal favorite semi auto 20 is the Benelli Ultra Light. Similar in usability to the Franchi.

Browning Silvers in 20 are pretty available still and are very soft shooting.
 
Remington 11-87 20-gauge compact fits the bill, but I can't speak to recent Remington quality. Maybe somebody else can.

Beretta used to make a really nice youth semi-auto 20-gauge, the 390 with adjustable LOP. Unfortunately it has been discontinued for a while, but you might find a nice lightly used one.

I use a 30+ year old 11-87 12 ga. and love it, but I've heard the quality of the new ones is kind of hit or miss. Any one have first hand experience with the new 11-87's?

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Today I was looking at a Benelli Montefeltro in 20 ga.
Does anyone have any experience with it?
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Weatherby SA-08 in a 20 ga. youth model.

Very well balanced and minimal recoil from a gas operated semi-auto. Any load from 3/4 oz. reloads to 3" steel shot, it has never failed to function.

This gun comes with 2 seperate gas pistons, marked "Light" and "Heavy", and any 7/8 oz. load or lighter gets the "Light" piston and of course 1 oz. and above gets the "Heavy" piston. Total change out time is less than 60 seconds.

My 11 year old great grand daughter shoots this model Weatherby with a 24" barrel, and she has shot several limits of doves and quail, as well as more mallards than any other 11 year old girl that I know of.
 
I use a 30+ year old 11-87 12 ga. and love it, but I've heard the quality of the new ones is kind of hit or miss. Any one have first hand experience with the new 11-87's?

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Next week, Remington enters BK court. Whether it is chapter 7 or 11 is still up in the air last I heard. IF they go Chapter 7, who knows about future availability
 
Make sure she gets to try holding it and mounting it to her shoulder before you buy. Most youth shotguns are sized for large 14 year olds. My whole family is on the small side. When my boy was 12, it was not really practical for him to hold a youth-specific model 20 gauge, much less shoot it. I probably could have found him a smaller .410 but it's better to wait until they can fit a gun with a bigger pattern that will give them a better chance at success on birds.

Semi-autos have less recoil and that helps kids a lot if it fits them. For 4H shotgun, kids have done real well with 1100's and 11/87's. Nowadays I'd look at the Remington V3. But it must fit. Those 4H kids are usually 14 or older, and kids are huge these days -- a lot of them are bigger than I am by the time they're 14. The length of pull is the fitment that is most likely to be far off. You can cut the stock down and refit the recoil pad -- just don't buy something you're not willing to chop-to-fit. Semi-automatics and pump-action guns are longer in the receiver than singles and doubles. If they have a long barrel or a long magazine tube, those things add weight to the front end. That can help steady the swing and dampen recoil when the gun fits, but if the gun is over-size, that front-end weight just makes it even worse.

I bought a handy little single-shot because it was lightweight overall, had a shorter receiver than any repeater, and it had less weight and cost than a double-barrel. I was able to buy a second buttstock so I could have a full-length stock and one that is cut down to fit kids. One problem with a lightweight single shot is the felt recoil. I like 28 gauge for kids because it patterns better than .410 and recoils less than 20. But with 28 gauge, it's too hard to find ammo and not practical to get cheap target ammo unless you reload it yourself. There's also just a lot fewer choices in guns. So I got a 20 gauge. With 20 gauge, you can try to buy or load light target loads, but it will still be a lot more recoil than kids who've only shot a rimfire rifle are used to.

The best way to get kids accustomed to recoil without developing a bad flinch might be to gradually introduce recoil by handloading. If you don't handload for shotshell, you can handload for centerfire rifle. You could use a pistol-cartridge carbine, or make up some light loads of .223 with Trailboss. Graduate from that to full-power .223 and on up. But sending a small kid from a .22 rimfire straight to a 20 gauge that doesn't even fit them right is a recipe for a bad experience.
 
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One of the best things to do for her is to get her excellent hearing protection. Loud sounds add to the felt recoil aspect

Agree. I've found Walker's Razor Slim Compact for Youth and Women Electronic Hearing Protection Muff to be a good choice. The Howard Leight Impact Sports that are so popular do not fit small heads well at all. It should be noted that these muffs are only -23dB NRR which means they should be doubled-up with ear plugs worn underneath. Higher NRR muffs will be really wide/thick and they usually interfere with cheek weld on long guns. The electronic amplifiers in these will make normal conversation possible even with the earplugs in under the muffs. For small plugs, I like the Mack's Slim Fit (purple) better than the Howard Leight Small (orange). The orange ones aren't sticky enough when you smoosh them and they make inserting difficult because they bounce back to full diameter before you can jam them in. Hearos also makes kid's plugs called nanos. Hearos are usually good stuff.
 
Beretta AL391 20 Gauge Youth Shotgun
Our BSA council was gifted 15 new 20 ga. AL391 sixteen years ago. These see a lot of hard continuous use in the summers as well as off season where they are kept at local Trap ranges for the Shotgun Merit Badge program, and all of 'em still work perfectly.
 
On the Trap forum I am on, one member recently got his 12 yo daughter a Benelli Montefeltro Silver Featherweight 20 ga for a Trap gun, and she is shooting it very well. Not an inexpensive shotgun, but it will last her a lifetime, and will still be a favorite upland gun long after she goes to a 12 ga. for duck and clays games.

https://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/montefeltro-silver-featherweight-shotguns?eid=109

I used one for a game farm hunt once. I didn't want to give it back.......
 
With waterfowl on the menu any of these would be excellent choices IMO:
Any of the Winchester SX4 Compacts
Browning Silver Micro Midas
Money no object-Syren XLR5 Waterfowler.

Mostly Upland:
Weatherby SA-08 Synthetic Compact
Mossberg International SA-20 Youth 20

I have experienced with all of the above except the Syren. All of the above are gas semi’s. As recoil intensifies the difference in recoil between gas and inertia shotguns increases.

After starting one child on a pump and one on a gas semi, for me the latter is the only way to go.

My daughter, now grown, has a Weatherby 20 gauge she uses for everything but waterfowl. For duck and geese she uses a 12 gauge Winchester compact.
 
Weatherby SA-08 youth stock 20 ga. Well built Turkish gun with Weatherby's excellent customer service back up. Light enough to be easy to carry and shoot and low enough recoil to be pleasant to shoot. I bought my then 12 yo son one 6 years ago and it has served him well for clays, pheasants, and geese. Highly recommend
 
They are good guns. Along with my daughter’s SA-08 I have a 20 gauge Upland, 12 gauge Waterfowler and a SA-459 Turkey.
 
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