Shots fired on the jobsite

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Wow, I'm blown away that you can carry on the job! I work for a major comms company and I would get canned if I had a weapon on the job and got caught. I can't even carry a knife! (though I do carry and use an "edge tool" on a daily basis :D ).
Now I wonder if it's worth adopting a don't ask, don't tell policy of my own.
 
Wow, I'm blown away that you can carry on the job! I work for a major comms company and I would get canned if I had a weapon on the job and got caught. I can't even carry a knife! (though I do carry and use an "edge tool" on a daily basis :D ).
Now I wonder if it's worth adopting a don't ask, don't tell policy of my own.
What mama doesn't know...
 
^^^!! - Also, they never made me sign anything.

Having had time to breathe and process everything - I am comfortable with my actions. Granted, I would have liked to have run into the house with a little more grace than a scared 5th grade girl, but I cannot change the past - nor will I hide from it. There may be things I'd complain about the company I work for in a different forum, but personal safety isn't one of them. Once inside the house, I pulled out my phone to dial 911. ~what happened was~ I hit dial on the last number called. Which was my supervisor (for the day) - who happens to be an ex Ranger. I told him that shots were fired and I was going to leave the jobsite in a few minutes. My thinking was to let everything play out whilst I'm behind walls that should stop most handgun rounds. He asked me if the shooter continued in his original direction. Not at me, yes. He asked where my tools were, and where my truck was, and in which direction was it pointed. Tools in the truck 60' from the front door of the house, and pointed away from the shooter. He told me I had 8 seconds to get from the front door to be driving away - to be counting as I ran. Body fast brain slow. (Pretty sure I didn't pull that one off) If I see any movement at all, to run like h*** back into the house but not to go in a straight line. If had had any doubt about getting any equipment back into the truck to leave it. I can't post his words verbatim here, but in essence they were get in the truck and go. The awesome thing was, he said it all like he'd done it all a thousand times. Just like ordering a pizza from an idiot.

I don't think I was worried about leaving the CC in the truck because I wanted to engage, just that if the shooter came in my direction that I'd have that going for me. I know I wasn't a target, but I *was* standing beside a work truck with strobes going and a headlamp on. What if he wanted to get rid of witnesses?

The truth is that I wasn't thinking. I was reacting. Guess I overslept on the day they had Ranger Combat Training.:D

I've looked at the ankle holsters, but my boots are pull ons - also, I walk too much to have that weight on one foot. Body armour? I appreciate the thought but, are you kidding? Work outside in shorts and a T-shirt one Florida august and tell me you'll wear a class 3 vest while you do it. Maybe in the attic?

Thank you guys for the comments and kind words. It makes me feel a bit better. The whole thing is just a reminder how easily one can get caught up in stuff so easily when all you're doing is trying to pay the rent...
 
Have you tried a small/light handgun on your ankle before? It's really not that much of a burden if you pick the right one.

An airweight (or even lighter) J-frame in an ankle glove may work well.

Not that it would likely make a difference in a situation like that of course, but just as a general 'hey you know you might want to try xyz to carry'

People who wear boots ankle carry too. Such as LEOs.
 
Warp,

The thought of going up and down a ladder all the way around a house while wearing 10 - 15 lbs worth of a tool belt, with an ounce more on one foot than the other worries me almost as much as stray shots...

I'm beginning to think I should just keep my LCP in my pocket and drop the toolbelt if I have to. An additional pouch on the belt is something I'm considering, if I can find one to suit my needs.
 
That probably isn't a bad idea.

Besides, if you have a few moments to drop the belt, you'd be able to run away that much more effectively.
 
In those situations, having a gun handy isn't any help - until one of the shooters starts launching bullets at you. Even then, it could be the good guy shootin' wild, or the bad guy neutralizing any threat you might be, and there is the possibility they are both bad guys.

Yup, take cover.

Woody
 
When I worked in the field it was almost commonplace to hear gunshots. Due to the type of work I performed,utility, I worked various hours alone in areas I would not want to go but had too. I learned that no matter where you went, no matter the time, you had to be aware of your surroundings.
We were not allowed to carry due to company policy. I never liked it but it was company policy that they were very serious about. I came to a peace about it with God's help, but always carry when not at work.
The gunshots never bothered me....the muzzleflash did.:p
 
A true operator would have done two barrel rolls toward their tactical wheelbarrow, and then... Just kidding, you did the right thing whether your weapon was on your person or not. Get to cover first, then decide if you belong in the fight or not. At that range you couldn't take a shot anyway. Don't beat yourself up, at all. Armed or not, in that situation your first priority was to get to safety. Good work.
 
Oily,

This kind of stuff happens in every inner city in every state. Mentioning the one I'm in will only get this thread moved to legal. If you really want to know, re-read my posts in this thread and I bet you can figure it out. But, I don't want this to turn into a - But I Coulda Done This Here - kind of thing. One of my main points of starting this thread was that I thought I had my feces consolidated. But, when they hit the fan, I didn't. I was lucky enough that my panicked reaction took me to cover.The smartest people on the internet (HighRoad members) seem to agree with me.

gp: Sad to say I left my tactical wheelbarrow at the last job. Guess I'll have to go back to get it;)
 
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Good point. You are right. I would have just made some non High Road statement about the uselessness of gun control laws and this isn't the place for that.

Good response. Really glad you are OK.
 
Years ago I was visiting friends in Jacksonville FL and heard a car screeching through the neighborhood and what sounded like fireworks. Walked outside and saw the car come tearing around the corner on our street and fire off several more shots at the house three doors down before ripping past us as I hid behind the fence.

Asked my friend about it, and he said the neighbor deals drugs and it was probably his competition. Point is I didnt have a dog in that fight and would rather hide like a scaredy cat than get involved if I dont have to be. You did the right thing.
 
Several years ago I was a beer truck driver, with another driver making a delivery to a place in "bad news area". We were downstacking cases out the truck bay to our dollies when we heard a car rev up right beside the truck, and then multiple shots. We were both in the bay with the pallet of beer and the door shut before the last shot rang out. Cozy, but safer then out on the sidewalk. Came out in a couple min to screaming and sirens. 13 yr old girl lay dead on sidewalk about 75 yards down. Got hit in crossfire. A gun wouldn't have done me any good, so best that I bailed into the truck which was nearest protection.
You did the right thing...
 
Glad you're okay. You handled THAT particular situation well and got lucky.

But what about next time, when the shots are more personal?

I think leaving your handgun in the vehicle - especially in a shady area - is problematic. What good is it to you if you need it? And couldn't someone just steal in while you're inside the home, thereby disarming you and arming themselves?

We all face this dilemma on how to carry and where there's a will there's a way. A light pistol could easily be carried even in your profession.

A vest may seem impractical for you in that climate... but be aware that cops wear them daily, and Soldiers wear much heavier gear in much more austere climates. Even a thin, class II vest would stop most common handgun threats such as 9mm, .38, .357, and .40. Just cover most of your vitals for survival. Check these out:
http://www.bulletproofme.com/ProMAX-GoldFlex.html
Very light and thin and will stop handgun threats and buckshot.
On a budget? $150, 10 year old Level II police surplus vests perform as good as new. http://www.bulletproofme.com/Photos/11-Year-Old_Vest_Shootout_PHOTOS.shtml

Not all encounters are going to be 300' away. You could face a carjacking or kidnapping or random shots fired at your vehicle just driving through those areas. It's not unheard of.
 
I think you did fine. I'm "in the field" a lot myself in my day job and in and around all kinds of places I'd rather not be if I had a choice and no matter what it weighs or what it takes I go armed when I can.

Not criticizing but I worry about you when your out like that...find a way to keep it on you. Yer a Cable Tech and deal with problem solving every day that's tougher to solve than keeping yer pistol on yer person. :cool:

I'd still recommend the duck and cover routine or run away like a little girl as I have done that myself a few times in 41 years in the field...bullets flying, even when they aren't flying right at you, are a cause for getting to cover ASAP. You done good.

Now keep Uncle VooDoo from worrying 'bout you and Pack that Rascal all the time it's legal. ;)

VooDoo
 
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