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Should I get a Muzzle brake for my 300 Win Mag

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by General Lee, Dec 27, 2010.

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  1. General Lee

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    I recently started to upgrade my remington 700 300 win mag. I got a Bell and Carlson stock and I have a Krieger barrel on the way. The gun is going to be heavy so I am wondering if the muzzle brake is worth it.

    Pros: less recoil, less rise

    Cons: Loud as hell. somewhat hard to clean.

    Ideas / Input please!!
     
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  2. usmarine0352_2005

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    Try this, Gentry's Quiet Muzzlebreak. I have one and love it.


    http://www.gentrycustom.com/pages/products.html



    If you are only using it for hunting I wouldn't get one. I'd use a PAST shoulder pad for sighting in and leave it at that.



    If you are going to shoot it a lot then a muzzlebreak wouldn't be a bad idea.


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  3. sappyg

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    no muzzle break. too loud.
    i'm glad they are out of vogue now.
     
  4. JDMorris

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    Don't do anything until you shoot it.
     
  5. General Lee

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    I plan on shooting a lot with it. I mostly do benchrest, but I do plan on taking down some game with it in the future.
     
  6. JDMorris

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    Shoot it to tell if it kicks too bad, If it doesn't you won't need a muzzle brake.
    If it's bad you do.
     
  7. sappyg

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    recoil bothers you too much Lee? it does me.
     
  8. General Lee

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    The recoil doesn't bother me as much as the loss of sight picture. The main reason I am looking for ideas on both now is I am having a guy machine the barrel for me and I would assume it would be a lot easier / cheaper to get both ends done at once if i were to get the brake put on.
     
  9. redbeardsong

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    A friend of mine was going to get a muzzle brake for his 300 win mag, but ended up going with a suppressor instead. It helps with the recoil and quiets it down.
     
  10. Freedom_fighter_in_IL

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    Well Lee, If you don't mind getting cussed at at the range and if recoil really bugs you, then get one. But be ready for some serious meltdowns from anyone else at the range with you. A MB on a 300wm is LOUD. Even those new "quieter" ones are still too loud for my taste. I have seen several range bosses send people away for having them on. Granted they are nice and all for staying on target but not really worth the hassle to me personally.
     
  11. JDMorris

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    Even if you have a muzzle brake on a .300 wm you wont be staying on target like a .223 can, it will probably be like a .308 win that still jumps you off target.
     
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    I just bolted my Weatherby Mark V .300 Win Mag into a new B&C stock. The recoil pad on the B&C does a great job of taming recoil. I had considered getting a muzzle break on mine, but it no longer needs one. And for what it's worth, I am pushing my 165 grain reloads about as fast as powder can burn...we're talking two-times compressed loads. :evil: Try it in the new B&C stock first.

    Regarding what Freedom_fighter_in_IL said of muzzle break noise, that advice is as accurate as can be. They can also tend to kick up a bit of dust and such even at a bench rest height. Finally, if you look into the muzzle break data, it reduces recoil far more with heavy bullets (200 grains) than it does light bullets (150 grains).

    Geno
     
  13. LoonWulf

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    I would also suggest shooting the gun before adding a muzzel brake. If you have a heavy barrel coming in and a total gun weight in the range of around 12lbs, your not going to get smacked overly hard. My .300 runs at just under 9lbs scoped and loaded, and i dont think its a horrible kicking gun. I WILL stop shooting it every 5 rounds and shoot something else...mostly for the gun, but also to give myself a break and get my game face square again. If you let your barrel cool all the way, which i dont. You should be able to get by shooting it round after round for a while. No mater what you do, you WILL lose sight picture firing that large a round. Also muzzel brake will soften the blow, but it will also kick everything up of ground and if your shooting from a long bench off the bench also. A top ported conpensator might help some, but again, you suffer noise pollution.
     
  14. Acera

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    I've got them on both my 300's, it helps tame the recoil. I have never seen, or heard from anyone I know of have an issue at a range with the noise. (but I guess some people are sensitive) It's a rifle range for %$##^s sake, the guns make noise. If it bothers you, use plugs and muffs for your range time. I tend to choose benches away from other folks out of courtesy, no matter what I am shooting.
     
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    I like the 300wm. if you reload try RL-25 or retumbo my favorite powder in the 300wm is RL-22 but if you try some just a bit slower your rifle will quite kicking you and start shoving you. this will work very well if you have a 26 inch or longer barrel. this has been my experience you may also want to try H-1000. A lot of guys don't realise you can change the way your rifle recoils with just powder change.
     
  16. Freedom_fighter_in_IL

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    Sorry there Acera, but I shouldn't HAVE to DOUBLE up my hearing protection for YOUR shoulder comfort. I have seen a guy get his eardrum blown completely out because they were sitting next to a guy at the range with a muzzle brake on rifle with only muffs on and was not warned. There are a LOT of public ranges around nowadays that will not even allow them on the range. Yes guns make noise but how much should be considered TOO much? Sorry but when adequate hearing protection is used and you STILL get a drum blown, I have to draw the line there.
     
  17. sappyg

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    save yourselfs some money and forget the muzzle break. i loose sight picture with my 243.
    if the recoil is too much for you Lee then maybe you should look at other calibers.
     
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    I shot a savage in the same caliber not too long ago. It had a muzzle brake on it. I was impressed by how well it worked. I don't think I'd go for one on a hunting rifle, but for the range, if you want to shoot a LOT, it turned the 300 win mag into a very managable shooter. It kicked less than my .308. The down side is that you'll be burning up barrels.
     
  19. sappyg

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    real men don't need muzzle breaks.
     
  20. General Lee

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    lol... It is not like I need training wheels for my gun. The reason I want a muzzle brake is as listed above to help sight picture and on target time. I am no small dude and to those who made all the real man comments.. well you know where to stick it.

    I have already put a Bell and Carlson fully adjustable tactical stock on the gun and I am waiting on a Krieger #10 MTU barrel (10 week wait if anyone is interested in that information). I think I will wait to get it put on after reading some helpful posts and considering it some more myself.

    Thanks for the input!
     
  21. Acera

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    Well that is probably IL. Not here in Texas. We don't seem to be that overly sensitive. I have one on my 50 also. Sappyg have fun with one of those that does not have one on it:uhoh:.

    I did not mean to imply that others around you should be use double protection, that is their personal choice. I have never been harassed by anyone over them. Maybe it's a regional thing? I do notice that where you tend to live in this country determines a lot of unusual customs regarding this sport. That may be part of this. Maybe down here in the south we just don't get as worked up over such minor things.
     
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    truthfully i don't have the guts to fire a 50 cal w/o a break on it.

    @ lee, you know i was just kidding right :D
     
  23. david58

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    Used to live in Texas, and shot at a range near Fort Worth. Design of the range made noise worse, the 300's with brakes made it miserable with doubled-up hearing protection. I stopped shooting there - seemed every time I showed up to shoot, somebody had one of those cussed things.

    Living in Oregon, I simply don't know anyone that uses a rifle with a MB. That includes all of my elk hunting friends (I use an -06). I don't know anyone that is afraid to admit that a 300 isn't a bench gun, either - darned things hurt, as do most centerfire hunting caliber rifles. I'd suppose that if you brought one to the range where I'm at, you'd be asked to shoot waaay down at the other end of the bench.

    As to a regional thing - I don't know. Being a born Southerner, I think we'd say we were less likely to get worked up being asked to not bring the MB to the range in consideration of others, than to say we'd just sit there and get jangled about. At the same time, I'm surrounded by folks that don't step up to the big magnums to hunt elk, mule deer, bear, and even moose. To each his own - I've had my shoulder surgery, and certainly never want another.
     
  24. longsman

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    It might be worth trying a silencer. Most silencers reduce recoil in the same way muzzles do. Additionally silencer will suppress muzzle flash and it will help save your eardrums.

    If you look on the Zack Smith's site, they do some mighty silencers for tactical rifles, they seem well made, although they are quite pricey.

    Only thing you have to watch with silencers is Point Of Impact shift. But if you hang around verious forums, like SnipersHide, 6mmBR or even here, you'll definitelly find people who tried them and can tell you weather silencer keeps constant POI.
     
  25. Freedom_fighter_in_IL

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    Well Acera, being that I am born and bred southern through and through, I would have to say you are incorrect about your assumption. I personally do not feel that hearing is a MINOR thing either. Having lost most of mine in my left ear from too many times without hearing protection has kind of taught me my lesson. Maybe one day that lesson will be taught to you as well.

    And as far as ranges not allowing them, I have seen it in Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Maryland, and several other states where they went so far as to POST "Weapons with muzzle breaks not allowed".
     
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