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Should I sell my vz and get a Garand?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by macomb2013, Jan 28, 2013.

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  1. macomb2013

    macomb2013 Member

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    Subject line says it all. I recently found the wonder website called CMP. I got a vz 2008, the complete package( 8 mags, mako hand guard, sides mount and optic,bayonet and ammo). I've always wanted a Garand.once I get the Garand I will change the gas block so it can shoot commercial ammo. Plus I lived in IL,you never know when it will turn into new york. For what I'd get for the vz I could have a Garand, some ammo (assuming CMP isn't sold out like everyone else...).

    The vz is really nice but it doesn't speak to me the way my other guns do. To be fair I think the vz is way better than an AK i shot. I believe it is everything an AK should be.
    What do you guys think? Should I sell the evil Commie gun and buy the old war horse?
     
  2. Reloadron
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    I am not real big on the AK type rifles. Bought and sold hundreds during my gunshop days and just not my type rifle.

    That said you have obviously shot your VZ and AK variants. I suggest you try and borrow a M1 Garand and shoot the rifle. If you like the AK guns I would not just sell what you have and jump into a Garand. Rather I would look to borrow a Garand and get familiar with the rifle. Then if you like the Garand and only if you like the Garand worry about getting one.

    While I happen to like and enjoy M1 Garands, they are not for everyone. More than once I have seen people get one and three weeks later regret the decision and they are looking to sell the rifle. Thus, I suggest try before you buy.

    Just My Take....
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  3. xfyrfiter

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    Garand thumb will either make you or break you lol.
     
  4. 1KPerDay

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    Keep your VZ. Save your pennies and get a Garand.
     
  5. Fishbed77

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    My thoughts exactly. Save 62,500 pennies and get yourself a Service Grade Garand from the CMP. You will not be dissapointed.
     
  6. tnelson31

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    Maybe sell 6 mags and other pieces, and then get a Garand?

    I didn't like Garands until I shot one at the range, the one I was shooting had little recoil and was smooth. I am a huge iron sight fan but like my rifles lighter, so until I shot it I only had weight to go by.
     
  7. shafter

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    I would sell almost anything to get a Garand.
     
  8. 1KPerDay

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    (rhetorical questions, not directed at you) Do you go out for coffee? Breakfast? Lunch? Do you pay for cable TV? How much do you spend on soda a month?

    Not trying to be inflammatory... but a lot of people don't realize how quickly they could save $600 with a few sacrifices. :cool:
     
  9. MarshallDodge

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    Good point. When I was young and made $11 per hour, I saved up $250 to buy a Garand. I worked a little overtime, fixed the neighbor's lawnmowers, scrapped aluminum, and packed a lunch. The next thing I knew I had enough for a Garand. :cool:
     
  10. nathan

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    I would say the Garand is a must have. Sell the Vz and get the Garand. Eight rounds of .3006 is such a powerpunch. You wont regret it.
     
  11. tomrkba

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    Keep the vz since there is no reason to get rid of a good gun. Save up and get a Garand for $650 or so.
     
  12. dwstone1227

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    Nothing outshines a M1 Garand. Pure fun.
     
  13. Vaarok

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    The Garand is an overhyped and overrated rube-goldberg first-generation semiautomatic rifle that fires a small quantity of expensive ammunition. It is large, cumbersome, heavy, and less likely to be as reliable as a Vz. Keep the Vz, buy a Garand when your funds allow.
     
  14. 68wj

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    Tough call. The Century made VZ isnt top of the line, but it is nice and they shoot very well. The Garand is American histoy and a solid rifle. I would say that the VZ is a bird in the hand, your choice.
     
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    Keep the VZ, save for the Garand. You don't wanna regret a sale later on.
     
  16. InkEd

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    Better keep that vz
     
  17. 12gaugeTim

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    As much as I hate to admit it, from a purely engineering stance this is correct. There's a lot more to a Garand than whether or not it was well engineered though. If American history or WWII movies are something that makes you tick, the M1 will do something for you the vz can't. My grandpa cried when his kids bought him a Garand for his birthday. He carried one in the military.
     
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    Since you don't even like the VZ, I say sell it. You can sell it for a crisis price and buy the M-1 at regular price. Plus you can actually get ammo for the M-1. Have you tried to find 7.62 Soviet lately?
     
  19. Fishbed77

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    So much wrong in one statement.

    I think its service record speaks for itself. Whether you buy the "Greatest Battle Implement Ever Devised" proclamation or not.

    The Garand is not a first-generation semiautomatic rifle. Many other designs (Mondragon, Remington Model 8, etc.) came long before the Garand. The Garand itself went through numerous iterations over a very long period of time before the final rifle adopted by the US military.

    A gas system of operation so simple it was copied by the AK.

    I guess you've never heard of Greek HXP M2 Ball from the CMP. These days it costs about the same (50 cents/round) as the overpriced 7.62x39mm you see in stores today (if you can find it).

    It's heavy (that's the price of forged steel and wood), but it's also almost perfectly balanced, so it's hard to call it cumbersome.

    I'd love to see some data to backup this quote. Both are ridiculously reliable designs.

    All that said, I still stand by my earlier post. Definitely keep the Vz (it's an awesome rifle) and save your pennies to get a Garand. A CMP Garand is probably the best deal you can get for any firearm today.
     
  20. macomb2013

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    thanks for the advice guys. i will keep the vz. 50-100 dollar a month i should have enough money to get one when school ends.
     
  21. MountainBear

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    I've bought and sold AK variants. They never tend to last in my collection. But I still have my 1st Garand. There's something special about Garands. I don't know if it's the history, the shootability, or something else, but that's the gun they are talking about when they say "from my cold, dead fingers..."
     
  22. goon

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    Should you get a Garand? Yes.
    Should you sell the VZ to do it? Eh... I don't think I would right now.
     
  23. Ian

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    The VZ isn't an AK variant - and I would not sell it. In several ways it's better than the AK.

    Let's be fair; it's really a second-gen design. The first generation were things like the Farquhar-Hill, Mondragon, Mauser 1916, and some other REALLY Rube-Goldberg wackiness. None of the first-gen rifles would have handled the combat conditions that the M1 was used in.

    But yeah, the M1 is not a modern combat rifle, and really shouldn't be though of as such. I love mine for the same reason I love my CJ2A, but on a normal day I would drive my Toyota and carry an AK (or VZ-58!)
     
  24. Roadking Rider

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    Should I sell my vz and get a Garand?
    Ok here's my take on this. I own a M1 Garand (springfield 1955) and it is by far my most cherished rifle. I do think that everyone who can afford one should at least own one. However having said that I would not trade the VZ for a M1 Garand. I'd save my money to buy one outright. M1's are not cheap to shoot, where the VZ with it's 762 x39 ammo is about half of what a 30-06 round costs. On the other side of the coin nothing and do mean nothing is more enjoyable IMO to shoot than the M1 Garand. I only shoot mine about three times a year and it is stipped to the bone cleaned a lubed after every shooting.
     
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  25. Cesiumsponge

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    I ordered two last week from CMP despite never having handled one in person. I watched q couple of documentaries around the rifle itself and that sealed the deal Another forum member just ordered 12 Garands. If not for the history, purchase it as an investment. The supply is not going to last forever.
     
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