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should i trade my bushmaster for sig 556?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by collateral, Nov 4, 2007.

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  1. collateral

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    I have a bushy 16 inch carbine with an izzy flash suppressor, I payed 1000 for it new. I really want a piston "AR" type rifle but the only one I can find around my area is the Sig 556. It sells for usually 1300 where I have seen it, should I trade the bushmaster and shell out a few hundred dollars for a Sig? What do you guys think?
     
  2. brentn

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    I would trade it in a second, only because out here they are worth 3000$ and the AR's including bushmaster are 1500$. I could afford to buy a bushmaster again at some point, but probably not a sig.
    They are apparently extremley reliable, but very difficult to find parts for if one were to break.
     
  3. Kalashnikov

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    Please point to me where they're that cheap in MI and I'll definatly go get me 1-3.
     
  4. C-grunt

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    I heald one this weekend and was not very impressed with it. Its rather heavy and bulky. Im sure its a very good and accurate rifle, but I would definitely prefer an M4 for a fighting gun.
     
  5. C-grunt

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    Sportsmans Wharehouse has them for 1300 here in Phx.
     
  6. nwilliams

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    $3000 for a Sig 556?:scrutiny:

    MSRP according to SIG is $1,299.95:rolleyes:

    The questions to ask yourself is how much is the Bushmaster worth if I were to sell it outright and are you getting a fair trade?

    If they offer you any less than $800 in trade-in value on your AR then I would walk away. Personally the 556 doesn't do anything for me, but if you like it better than your Bushmaster and really want one then I say go for it.

    You're always better off trying to sell a gun yourself over trading it in, most gun shops give you about 60% of the gun's potential resale value. Putting a gun on consignment is usually a better option if you don't like selling privately, most shops around here take 15-20%.
     
  7. 4v50 Gary

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    Yep, I'd trade too, but that's only because Bushmasters are easier to get than Sigs and it's my way of celebrating diversity (why, is there any other type of diversity that I should be celebrating?).
     
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    Brentn lives in Calgary, Canada.
     
  9. metalhd9034

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    eh, don't trade

    I wouldn't trade the AR, I'm partial to them over other rifles simply because I'm lazy and I think the 556 is considerably heavier than my LMT carbine. Besides the weight difference, I think the AR platform gives you so much more flexibility in caliber/barrel length/aftermarket parts etc the Sig is a relatively new kid on the block. If you just like the Sig 556 by all means knock yourself out! It's definitely a great rifle. However, a cheaper alternative would be getting a piston conversion kit from LWRC and convert your existing AR to a piston driven system. I haven't tried the system myself yet, but I've heard/read good things about them. Here is the website: http://www.lwrifles.com/ At the very least you could keep the handling characteristics/ease of maintance/and cheaper solution to the problem, than buying a completely different rifle that you'll have to pay more to maintain down the road. The AR family has been around a loong time, you'll always be able to easily find parts for it, how easy will it be 5 to 10 years from now to get parts for the Sig? I could be totally wrong, but it's just my .02. Have fun with whatever you decide, both are definitely solid firearms.
     
  10. George Hill

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    The SIG makes the AR look silly.
     
  11. Crunker1337

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    Depends; what will be using this rifle for?

    Longer shooting=SIG
    Homeland defense=Bushy

    I don't think your OP gave enough information to fairly answer this question.
     
  12. TexasRifleman

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    Real shooting? Keep the Bushy

    Something to show and impress your friends that don't know better? SIG
     
  13. collateral

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    My AR functions just fine, I more or less just want to move over to a piston instead of direct impingement. I dont really know much about who makes good piston uppers for ARs.
     
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    The Bushy is probably better-handling by a bit (the Sig is front-heavy) but the Sig clearly is a harder beast to come by.

    That's a bit overly uncharitable. Like Sig or not, the 556 is not a poseur. It may not be what everyone wanted it to be, but it's a viable piston-driven 223/5.56NATO carbine that takes STANAG mags and generally puts lead downrange as well as most anything else.

    I'm not sure that I'd pay $200-$300 more for a 556 than a similar Bushy, but then again it's still cheaper than most any other piston-driven 5.56NATO carbine with STANAG mag compatibility. If you really want a piston-driven rifle and not direct-impingment, the 556 is probably the least expensive option.
     
  15. TexasRifleman

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    After having one for 6 months, I'd say I was being generous quite frankly.

    It's unusual, that's about all going for it. If you don't have an AR type rifle at all, or collect things like I do, then it's great, but to trade a functioning Bushy for a Sig makes no sense considering the money difference.

    There is no ADVANTAGE to the Sig other than the appearance and the "cool" factor over an AR.

    It's a nice rifle, it shoots fine, but it's not BETTER than a well running AR.
     
  16. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Well, first consider that you are unlikely to get new, retail value for your used Bushmaster (even if only slightly used). So you aren't going to get $1k in trade most likely.

    Now figure out what the SIG 556 offers that the Bushmaster doesn't and decide if it is worth the price difference to you.

    I know for me, the fact that the SIG 556 is a gas piston isn't worth the extra $300-500 for me. I've handled the SIG and they are nice rifles; but nose-heavy. I just didn't see a significant gain over my ARs to plunk down the money on one.
     
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    I paid $1159 w/tax for mine back in Sep here in Cincinnati. I got one of the early ser#'s that needed a new sight rail. Called Sig and had one in 6 days, no charge. Mine came with no sights at all so I ended up putting in another $250 for that. I am very satisfied with mine. I don't plan on tricking it out like I might an AR so the lack of accessories is not a problem. I've owned Sig pistols for years. IMHO they are the best out there. Couldn't resist getting their rifle.
     
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    I own a 556 that I am very happy with. That being said I wouldn't dump a perfectly good Bushmaster for the perceived benefit of a gas piston system. The SIG is a good rifle but so is your Bushy.

    Chris
     
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    Keep the Bushmaster! Sig Arms makes fine weapons without a doubt, but with all of the accessories and modifications you can have for the Bushmaster there really is no comparison. You can buy a gas piston upper for the Bushmaster(page 25 of their catalog) for about $900 that gives you a wider variety of ammo you can use.
     
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    Yes it is 3000$ here, click the link if you don't believe me.
    http://www.theshootingedge.com/cmgallery/displayimage.php?album=8&pos=2

    A couple other retailers sell it for the exact same price, there has to be some kind of importation fee or something... If I was interested I would have that gun store in pheonix ship it to questar in the states to be imported to canada for me. Probably cost me 2K$ instead total instead of 3...
    No idea why its that high..
     
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    Dude, that's a SIG PE90, or the SIG 552 made in Europe that all of us 'mericans fawn over despite its $6000 (or more) price tag.

    The 556 is a different ball of wax. It's more or less a hybrid of the AR and original 55x model.
     
  22. C-grunt

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    Brentn...Thats not the 556. Its definitely a nice looking rifle though.
     
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    Fair enough - unless you have a bee in your bonnet about direct impingment actions (as some people do). If the OP wants a gas piston rifle, the Sig becomes the least expensive way to get a non-direct-impingment semiauto long gun that will still take STANAG mags.

    I got mine for less than a grand NIB; that's about the same cost as a Bushy. I like it OK. I don't have an issue with direct impingment, tho, so I wouldn't likely make the trade insomuch as I picked one up to have an option.

    But I'm not the OP, and if he wants a gas-piston rifle then the Sig 556 is his least expensive option. Only he can decide if that's worth $300-$500 dollars to him.
     
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