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SHTF/Home Defense Rifles

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Dynasty, Dec 22, 2008.

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  1. Dynasty

    Dynasty Member

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    What other rifles are the "go-to" rifles when a SHTF/home defense situation? Something that can handle close encounters as well as 100-200 yard threats? From what I've found out searching through the forums...

    -AR15
    -AK47
    -SKS
    -Mini 14

    Those seem to be the most popular. What other rifles would do well?
     
  2. monkyboy1975

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    An appalacian assault rifle, aka winnie 94 or marlin 336.
     
  3. Redneck with a 40

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    I have an SKS for this purpose.:D
     
  4. Macmac

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    To me no rifle is a good inside the house SD weapon.. A shot gun does this job better than anything.

    Most any real rifle will shoot thru a bad giy and then a few more walls.

    I suppose if you live alone it might not matter.

    For outdoors a folder can be about no more than a big pistol..

    I was never sold with Rugers mini 14 in any caliber.. They seem to be very fussy guns.
     
  5. QuietEarp

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    I was gonna add the lever guns that monkyboy1975 mentioned. I think I would grab an SKS. If they got too close that scary bayonet might come in handy. One of the shorter barreled ones would be best.
     
  6. alaskanativeson

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    Nothing says "safe home security is practiced here" better than the cycling of a 12 gauge shotgun.
     
  7. woof

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    I don't consider anything 200 yards away (or even 100 yards) to be a "threat." That said, mine is a Marlin 1894c .357.
     
  8. T191032

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    "An appalacian assault rifle, aka winnie 94 or marlin 336."

    Agree. Either in pistol calibers .357 Mag, .44 Mag, .45 "long" Colt or rifle calibers .30-30, .35 Remington, .38-55.
    No "Assault Rifle" stigma, more "grandpas or grandma's old deer rifle"



    "What other rifles are the "go-to" rifles when a SHTF/home defense situation? Something that can handle close encounters as well as 100-200 yard threats? From what I've found out searching through the forums...

    -AR15
    -AK47
    -SKS
    -Mini 14

    Those seem to be the most popular. What other rifles would do well?"


    May face the "Assault Rifle" stigma unless a good defense Attorney effectively points out the "good guy" (police) use of said rifles by example.
     
  9. Big Bill

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    Has anyone tried one of these Hi-Point carbines in 9mm or .40?

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    Finishes offered: Black, Camo

    Capacity: 10-shot magazine standard

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    100% American-made, parts and assembly

    http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/carbines/40carbine/40_carbine.html
     
  10. Bigfoot

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    Pistol caliber carbines especially .40 and .45.

    M1 Carbine

    Kel-Tec SU-16

    M1A

    Cetme .308

    FAL

    Honestly even 100 yards is long for self-defense (that's why I included the Carbines)for most situations but who am I to argue against something a person whats to do.
     
  11. TexasRifleman

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    Well, pretty much all the testing and real life disagree with that.

    It's all about ammo choices, not what fires the ammo.

    I can find shotgun loadings that will go through walls all day long, and I can find rifle rounds that will not.

    Ammo is what matters, not the delivery system.
     
  12. mljdeckard

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    My primary is my 870, but my backup (and my wife's primary) is an M-1 carbine.
     
  13. DarkCharisma

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    I'd personally take my AR-15 out of any of those rifles. Damn good accuracy, unmistakable "evil gun" look, and the .223's ballistics make over penetration a minor concern, especially with hollow point 55gr. rounds.
     
  14. Doc_Jude

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    That's a great combination. Even though the M-1 carbine isn't a 30-06, it's an outstanding short-range urban weapon design.

    A little data comparing the .357mag to the .30 Carbine, courtesy of Chuck Hawks:

     
  15. SHvar

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    I have both the AR and the Mini-14, unless you had no other option, or you had a perfect shot that you knew the bullet would stop safely, I wouldnt use either in the house, thats what my Glock 22 is for.
    A 12 gauge shotgun would be a good choice, people dive for the dirt when you rack a round into a 12 gauge.
     
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    12-gauge. No man alive could resist breaking out into a cold sweet if all of a sudden you hear a 12-gauge pump cycle and don't see it. It's a sign from the universe that bad things are about to happen.
     
  17. monkyboy1975

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    But I thought this was a rifle thread:confused:
     
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    im an anti, i use harsh words and a big stick :)
     
  19. goon

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    A Marlin 30-30 works for my needs but it's a bit more of a utilitarian rifle than a home defense rifle.
    Shotguns are effective for HD but too limited in their use to justify my keeping one around.
     
  20. Ignition Override

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    When these topics emerge, it always puzzles me to imagine people in cities, suburbs, semi-rural housing developments or in their cars (being well-aware of "uncivil unrest" where they need to be driving), who can identify the likely need for self-defense at a range of more than 50 yards, maximum 100 or so, unless people are running amok on sidewalks or through streets and breaking things.

    What criminals display a weapon from much more than 20-40 feet, much less use it? Maybe my impressions from reading the news are totally mistaken.

    People in the Katrina, South Central LA race riot aftermath might describe these longer-range situations, i.e. standing on your shop's roof with a rifle in your hand. Other than with a possible riot, certain trouble might be hard to categorize.
    Feel quite free to contradict my skeptic view. Real world scenarios are always educational.
     
  21. armoredman

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    Rifle, this one, vZ-58. Fantastic lightweight easy shooting accurate rifle, short and fast handling. Not exactly my first choice for home defense, usually a pistol.

    vZ-58table1.jpg
     
  22. Macmac

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    TexasRifleman, Can you buy frangible rounds in Texas? I can't in NH, as they are illegal to common joe civilian. I can buy Mil surplus in fmj and hunting loads only, and so far as I know all of these are way to hot for indoors use.
     
  23. woof

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    You'll have a bad day in court when you try to justify having shot someone at 100 yards as self-defense.
     
  24. matai

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    Anybody shot a Saiga .308?? I'm considering a 7.62 because the local shop has em for $379.99. But a .308 would be cool, just not sure if it'd work that well.
     
  25. Dope

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    Really? The only state I know of that is close is NJ with their quasi-hollowpoint ban. Do you have any reference for that ban in NH? It's definitely not the case here in MA.

    Dope
     
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