SHTF-run and grab, which one?

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Happy Bob said:
Hmmm:

An HK .45 in one hand and an HK .40 in the other.

A boot on each foot.

A .45-70 at the ready.

What the well-dressed Working Man is wearing this year while repelling boarders.

Cool. :D

Ooops, forgot my hat. :D
 
My FAL, 5 loaded mags and Becker BK7 that is on the web gear, and three rifle grenades.
Grenades first, 100 rounds of 7.62x51 for clean up, slice and dice any survivors.
Rinse, lather, repeat.
:D

(No, I don't actually own any rifle grenades. But it is nice to dream.)
 
More than likely it would be my S&W 13 with my Marlin 1894C. My son would have my Win 1300 with its stuff and such. Wifey might have a 22..She doesn't like to shoot.
 
First things first. I slap the alarm button for fire and police, in three seconds i have made the call and I know cops on the way. fire too. we have three remotes and two fixed keypads.

I am not worried too much about the molotovs on the outside. brick lower half, upper half is concrete hardie board siding, windows are all tempered glass so unless they shoot first throw later widows are going to prevent them from entering. porch and house are all sprinklered, I am a contractor and I have seen enough fire damage to mandate it in my home.

I grab previously discussed ready jacket and weapons and head to basement. engage zombies from basement windows. basement has four different exits and two windows.
 
my converted Saiga 16" carbine is my SHTF rifle.

With its folding stock, it packs 30rounds 7.62x39r in a package 26 1/8" long. Alot of firepower in a small package. It is also damn reliable, even after sitting for long periods of time without cleaning.
 
Running outside is not my first choice. Gun would likely be shotgun and pistol. I have 6 fire Ex inside house. (yes some are 5lb ones but others are 15+) In order to toss bottles in windows they had to work. Narrow windows with screens/tripple pane/etc.
I would attempt to return fire/drive them off as 911 called.
 
Are you leaving a fortified area or staying

I wouldn't care to defend a fixed point. I prefer the Sun Tzu method of continual movement.

I WOULD have a medium size region to move in. Too large to find me, yet small enough to have several Caches of weapons. I would physically carry what my upper body strength allows. Right now I can handle a MBR; when I'm sixty it might have to be a lighweight AK.

Pistol would be a hi-power with a .40 AND 9mm barrel
revolver would be a 3" 640.
 
I'm not a fireman and I haven't had any experience with Molitov cocktails but I have seen what happens when a jar of gasoline ignites and explodes and if it happened in a house it would take a lot to put it out. I don't think a hand held extinguisher would do the job.
Burning gasoline does not like to go out.

i'm not a fireman, nor do i play one on television. i have used both CO2 and dry chemical fire extinguishers to put out different types of fire from transmission fluid to grass fires and i'll tell you that a 25lb dry chemical extinguisher is more than enough for two molotovs - usually about 12oz of gasoline each. they have to hit something hard to break in the first place and they usually don't cover an area more than two square feet or so. obviously, if i came out of the shower and the living room was engulfed in flames and my normally hardcore SO was somehow abducted by the bodysnatchers and replaced with a cowering fool than i'd grab her, the ar and the phone in that order and leave post haste. realistically, i'm confident that the two of us can fight off nearly any threat, including two little wussy gas fires. i'd be pissed if they got my handwoven silk pakistani rug, though.
 
My first choice would be to grab a fire extinguisher or two. We have several throughout the house. 2nd, bedside ak, and either the 1911, or the speed six that rotate duty on the nightstand. SO would be headed out back with the critters
 
You know the molotov/waiting firing squad situation makes me think.... are flashbangs legal? Those would sure be handy to throw out the door before you went out in those situations.
 
Smokes'd be better than nothing, but cut the whole ability of being able to SNEAK OUT IN OUR DIRECTION out. Sure there's a flash and a bang, but everyone who's there to see it is out for the count. Whereas a big smoke cloud.. Wait... a smoke grenade in a fire? :neener: :neener:
 
Hmmm, tough call, give the SO the FN57 and fire ex-es (and evacuate to safe zone ith our 1yo if things go pear-shaped), grab the G36K (and yes, as noted once, it has a AG36 40mm GL attached to it with several rounds at hand) and load it with C-mag and it's time to rock&roll, first, grenade into any motorized transport they have (windows are broken by the scenario giving firepoints) and then hose the running bastahds. Yeah, high-speed, low drag. Luckily I have a mostly fireproof stonewalled house &sprinklers, as climate dictates and a firesafe place in it (basement). But as noted, if i had reported any local thugs, i'd be prepared, like a grenade-nets on windows.
 
I would first make sure that all of the other family members were able to get out, and that the wife had her 72 hour bag. I would grab my own 72 hour bag. If there was time to do it safely, I would grab my Makarov with 2 spare mags, and the Yugoslavian M59/66 SKS with as much ammo as I could toss in my coat pocket (or better yet, a .30 caliber ammo can that I keep stuffed with 7.62x39 already on strippers). Once I was clear of the house, I would find cover that provided me with a good shot against the perps who torched my house.

Both guns are never far from me. The bag is always ready to go. I've got bundles of ammo for both guns placed strategically around my home for an expedient exit. This isn't exactly a stretch of the imagination.

Given a little more time to prepare, I'd probably grab my Savage 10FP-LE2, get a bit further back from my house, and take my time getting a good clean shot on each of the perps from a safe distance.
 
Buzztail said:
My first choice would be to grab a fire extinguisher or two. We have several throughout the house. 2nd, bedside ak, and either the 1911, or the speed six that rotate duty on the nightstand. SO would be headed out back with the critters

A residential fire extinguisher ain't gonna do squat against a molotov cocktail. It's like pissin into the wind.
 
chopinbloc said:
i'll tell you that a 25lb dry chemical extinguisher is more than enough for two molotovs - usually about 12oz of gasoline each

More like a 40 oz malt liquor bottle with a mixture of gasoline and liquid soap. That fire will scatter upon impact, and stick to whatever it hits. It will spread quite rapidly depending on the contents and construction of your home. I'm happy that my home is mostly concrete and steel, but the subflooring is still plywood. :eek:
 
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