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SHTF Shotguns ...

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by axeman_g, Mar 9, 2004.

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  1. axeman_g

    axeman_g Member

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    ok all, I am tired of seeing all the SHTF scenarios containing Rabid Zombies/ModernizedCubans/UndeadATFEAgents etc etc in the rifle sections of THR.

    Lets talk SHTF shotties ....

    I personally think a SHTF arsenal should be a super accurate handgun, a high powered handgun, a 22lr rifle and a combat shotgun. Stealth and CQB /security will be the order of the day for the majority of Americans. In that vein ...

    What would your Shotgun choice be?

    An 870 ... but what about the plastic parts of the express and possible repair in the ravaged future?

    A Beretta 1200 FP ... semi auto security and firepower .. relaibility?

    A Benelli M4 .. so ugly it frightens the zombies away?

    LETS HEAR IT FOR SHOTTIES SAVING THE WORLD !!!!
     
  2. tranders

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    In a SHTF scenario it would probably be my beloved 1100 hunting gun after a quick visit with a hacksaw. If in a survival situation I would probably opt for my 20 gauge H&R for simplicity.
     
  3. sm

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    Yep !
    Looks like I'm gonna have to post that Part II I spoke of afterall - huh?

    The Reality - Reality I've seen the results of shotguns creating *HTF for the perp full of payload. Honest I could tell no difference from the single shot and the high dollar semi-auto duck gun I was told that was used. Both DRT...kinda screwed up the idea of organ donation as well.

    Yep, some tools fit a task better than others. Then again folks for too many years defended themselves against a bunch of bad stuff with single shot and pump guns fitted with fixed choke bbl...that full being the most popular you see.

    Now these folks had survival instincts, proper mindset, and they knew how to shoot. I subscribe to the notion what worked then - most likely will work today.

    Nope , not against progress, always been against buying skill and targets through equipement tho.

    Figure 1911s , KFrames, 870s , model 70 in '06 , Model 94 in 30-30 ...to name only a few...have a proven record of "fan situations".
     
  4. loandr.

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    This ones easy....Saiga-12....AK reliable and benelli fasy . Just my .02
    Loandr.
     
  5. loandr.

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    ooooooops and those other voids. Ruger 10/22 and Glock 35 :)
    Loandr.
     
  6. riverdog

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    That would be my HD Wingmaster. Parkerized with a 20" rifle-sight, slug barrel -- works great with 00B. As regards parts, I have two other 870's which are used for trap and Skeet which have near identical trigger assemblies, no plastic and a few extra barrels. Actually, since I never use 3" shells, any of the three guns would be fine for SHTF duty. BTW, get a whole bunch of 00B, as awell as bird shot and a few boxes of slugs. You never know what the target might be.
     
  7. jacketch

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    My combination SHTF/HD shotgun is an 18" barrel Mossy 500 with ghost rings, Choate side folding stock/handgrip, sidesaddle and extended tube. With 00buck, #4 and slugs it is more versatile than my AR for CQB.
     
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    All I have, but it'll do. Winchester 1200 w/ sidesaddle and buttcarrier.
     
  9. orangeninja

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    Remington 870 with a Pistol Grip Stock. I don't know about plastic parts on the 870...I've got a 20 year old one and we use Marine Magnums that are only 2 years old but see daily hell (bad weather conditions 24/7, rookies qualifying with them, slamming the butt on the floor for failure drills etc.) I have yet to see one actually fail.
     
  10. proven

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    i'll second what sm had to say, hence my forum name.

    i'm fond of my 870P, no frills
     
  11. HSMITH

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    ANY of my 5 different 12 gauge shotguns would work fine. The one thing though would be 'fear me, I know how to use them ALL' and with any one of them I would be very very dangerous to someone that intended on harming me or mine.

    I have owned 25+ different 12 gauge shotguns over the last 10 years and shot most of them at least 1000 rounds, the rule here is they all work really well on the first target and from there the seperation begins. If ony one bad guy is on the schedule you would be a frickin' nut to have anything other than a single shot NEF or similar gun. If contingencies tell you there will be or might be more than one bad guy other guns should be on your shopping list. The 870/590/835 is THE standard (100% reliable when semi-decent ammunition is used) and make your own choices from there.

    This is the old impossible question again. Me? I am taking a SuperX2 3.5" as my 'only shotgun'. It works, enough said.
     
  12. riverdog

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    I don't quite understand how using anything other than a single shot qualifies one as a frickin' nut when confronting a single perp. Could you clarify?
     
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    Yeah, what if you miss on your first shot?
     
  14. Black Majik

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    Ya guys want to see a "hell freezes over moment?"


    Mossberg 590

    C'mon, I gotta admit, 9 + 1 on a shotgun is pretty damn cool :eek:
     
  15. HSMITH

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    My comment was meant to imply that it would be silly to spend $400 on an 8 shot pump with the laser designating ghost ring super sights when a $75 single shot would take care of it just as well.

    All I was trying to say is think about YOUR situation and possible needs, and buy the shotgun that fits YOUR needs.
     
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    For me, it is the Maverick 88 by Mossberg...because that is what resides in "Foghorn's Artillery Locker".

    18-1/2" barrel, stoked with Remington 3" #4 Buck. One butt cuff, and a bandolier/belt with 25 more of the same.
     
  17. Dave McCracken

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    Ladies and gents, a demurrer.

    ANY reliable shotgun taking readily available ammunition will do the job.

    The weakest link is not the shotgun nor the ammo. We are.

    Unless you've practiced with your weapon so you can operate it safely and effectively under emergency conditions, that weapon is but an illusion of security.

    BA/UU/R....
     
  18. riverdog

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    It always comes back to the shooter doing his part; however, besides regular practice, choosing the weapon is part of that shooter's responsibility.

    My choice for this question will always come back to a 12 gauge pump shotgun. It doesn't need a 3" chamber because 2 3/4" is plenty adequate, but it has to be 12 gauge because that's the most common/readily available shotgun gauge available. A 3" chamber would be nice but not necessary. In general, I don't trust automatic shotguns with a wide range of loads. Besides they're higher maintenance.

    As I stated earlier, my choice is a Rem 870 Wingmaster Magnum. All I ever buy/shoot is 2 3/4" shells but I could go to 3" if pressed. The three guns I use for clay games are 2 3/4 " but two of them are also Wingmasters and would essentially be spares in whole or part for the primary gun. I haven't tried it, but I'll bet the trigger assemblies and bolts would cross over easily, but I don't anticipate the primary gun breaking, the 870 is purty tough. The third is an O/U and would be a tertiary back-up or perhaps used strictly for hunting small game (birds, wabbit).
     
  19. JamisJockey

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    I just updated my Winchester 1300 with a new Barrel
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    22" 'ranger' barrel with rifle sights. Its essentially a chokeless smoothbore slug barrel. I'll pop the plug out when I have a chance.
    IMHO, a shotgun is a very formidable and intimidating weapon. I'd still feel more comfortable in any SHTF with a high-cap longgun, but I feel that with the shotgun I'm now much more prepared to stave off the goblins if society comes tumbling down.
    I've also got a 10/22 in my arsenal, a Taurus PT145 (daily carry), and a Ruger Security Six 2 3/4" .357mag. I'd arm the wife with the Rugers, and myself with the shotgun.
     
  20. Dave McCracken

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    OK, I'll play the whole game.

    An 870 12 gauge for every adult in the family.Bellsnwhistles optional.

    A centerfire rifle for every two adults. My choice, Model 94, Peep sighted.

    One 10-22 for foraging and low noise ops. Scoped.

    K frames for every adult, a GM for those that will do the extra training.

    All to use common ammo.

    Every long arm sling equipped.50 rounds each for the 870s on the operator.
    50-100 for the rifles.

    All handguns have holsters. 3 complete reloads carried.

    And all practiced with frequently, often and hard.

    If I had to choose just one, the 870 of course...
     
  21. Rupestris

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    870 12 ga and a 1911 for me, thank you.
    I'd probably arm my wife with the Win 94 30-30 and the boy with the scoped Marlin Model 60 or his 20 ga 870.

    Could you add aliens to the possible threats? I'm really looking forward to the whole Independence Day thingie. :p If its like the movie Signs, make mine a Super Soaker:D
     
  22. Doug S

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    My pick for a defensive shotgun is the 8 shot Mossberg 500 Persuader. I’d probably prefer the 18.5 in barrel instead of my 20in, but I like the higher magazine capacity of the 20in. It’s not pretty, but it’s definitely functional.
     

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    A punt gun! Wether defending yourself against savage Mongol Zombie Hoardes or savage hoards of geese, you cant go wrong with a Punt Gun!

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    What I really want is one of these bad boys loaded up with 0000buck. :D

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  24. outdoorman63

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    heres mine

    remington 870 with goodies
     
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    "I personally think a SHTF arsenal should be a super accurate handgun, a high powered handgun"

    Why did'nt you just say an accurate high powered handgun?:neener:
     
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