Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by bg226, Jan 13, 2008.
What is the official sidearm of the Israeli forces?
I believe it's the Jericho 941 in 9mm. Known as the Baby Desert Eagle to Americans. But my info is a few years old.
For decades, Israeli commandos carried the Browning P-35 Hi-Power. They've been known to use the Tanfoglio-TZ-75, TA-9- "Witness".
Actually, they also a have tons of Beretta 92-F's. So, they are very adaptable in using a variety of weapons, perhaps the reason for the Israeli Draw, #3....
Today, Checkman's reply might be on track....
I've heard that they kind of carried what they want to carry. I've heard of everything from 1911's to Jerichos, but I'm not real sure of the accuracy of that.
whatever goes boom.
I'm actually not sure. The dumb part is that I had a guy that works with the IDF's SOF staying at my house last summer, but we never really talked about that sort of detail. talk about wasted opportunities...
I have seen a lot of pictures where you could see Glocks!
I think it's what ever they bring with them!
All the pistols mentioned above, except for the HP, are/were police issue, not IDF. Various IDF units have used Beretta 951s, HPs, Glocks, and Sigs. Beretta M70s in .22LR also saw some use.
Well from what I've read here, no one knows what the IDF actually issues.
Who uses those for what??
I believe the Israeli Mosaad used them, along with a silencer, for clandestine ops.
Yes, that's old news.
I thought that someone else did.
Too bad that it does not happen more often!
It's double top secret.
I heard they're so elite that they don't really use guns at all. They just hold cartridges between their teeth and smack the primers with the tips of their tongues to send the bullets zipping downrange.
"Well from what I've read here, no one knows what the IDF actually issues."
I did my Basic and Advanced infantry/engineer training along with the Combat Engineer sayeret "Yael", at a base that currently receives periodic rockets from Gaza. I know what they and the other sayerot had in the 1980s and before. For 3 years I worked with the Border Guards, was a "Central Security Coordinator" and ran a local armory. Since then I have kept in contact with old friends. Believe what you read or don't read, but I know.
"I believe the Israeli Mosaad used them, along with a silencer, for clandestine ops."
I have no idea what the Mossad uses, but IDF units used these pistols against dogs and sentries, but the widest use I know of was by El Al aircraft security officers.
To add...El Al did not use silencers.
There is a poster on Glocktalk named Lior who is an Israeli. I believe he is a police officer there. He carries a Glock 19 in a smartcarry.
Try asking this over on Glocktalk.
Several TV shows, articles, and internet/paper/magazine photo scrutiny has left me with the impression they issue a fair amount of Glock 17s along with what ever else they may provide.
I recall at least one of the TV shows and an article or two stating that their issue sidearm was the G17.
Take it or what that's worth, these days.
Glock 17s for service type positions, Glock 19 for secret squirrel/police type positions.
So, did they EVER carry Desert Eagles, or is that just a myth? If so, when?
The Israeli military may be tough, but they don't universally have giant hands. Although the Desert Eagle is made by Israel Weapons Industries (IWI), formerly Israel Military Industries Ltd. (IMI), it is not one of the weapons issued to the IDF. The Jericho 941 ("Baby Eagle") is one weapon used by the IDF, RENEA (Albanian counter-terrorism unit), and ROKASWC (South Korean Special Warfare Command); however, it is not the primary military handgun in use in Israel, Albania, or South Korea.
1911-style pistols are still in limited use in the US military, but the standard issue handgun is now the Beretta M9/92FS. The situation between the Glocks and the Jericho is probably similar in Israel. They issue Glocks to most personnel who require a handgun, and the Jericho is issued in a limited fashion.
They have been using BHPs, P226/228s, Jericho 941 F, and recently some Baraks and great amounts of Glocks are being used.
Definitely a lot of Glocks, but I also saw a lot of M16 type weapons on them more often. There is nothing like walking through city streets and seeing soldiers with a rifle slung on their back buying produce.
You should try doing your banking with a Galil or M16 on your shoulder. First time I did that I didn't even realize it until I was in the line and almost to the teller. Made me jump a bit inside!
To add: Up until the late 1980s, the IDF was still issuing Enfield revolvers on a limited basis.
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