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Sig 2022 vs. Glock 19 vs. XD vs. S&W M&P

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by orangeninja, Mar 15, 2013.

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  1. RBid

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    I've owned an XDm 3.8" 9mm (full grip) and currently own a G19 (Gen 4). I've fired the M&P 9, and have a fair amount of dry fire (with Snap Caps) with the Sig. If I had to pick a favorite, the trivial answer would be the M&P. Despite an unspectacular trigger, it is an extremely user friendly weapon. It's extremely flat shooting, feels great in the hand, runs well, and is better in live fire than dry. Honestly, I notice the trigger stuff in dry fire, but it works great in live fire.

    Despite my enthusiasm for all of the other options, and despite being a Walther PPQ & P99 fanboy at heart, I recently transitioned to Glocks as my go-to. I don't prefer them over a PPQ or M&P. My choice was for one simple reason: resource availability. I was getting annoyed with searching online for mags and custom holsters for the PPQ, and the discussion around Federal or State level capacity restrictions made me think about availability in a more urgent way. Since I picked up my G23, I have already been able to add 5 standard, plus 22 and 31 rd mags for it, as well as an IWB and OWB holster. 2 of the mags were orders, the rest was all off the shelf. Because of frame commonality, my G19 uses the same holsters. In one month with the G23, I was able to acquire more resources for it than I found in a year with my PPQ, and I didn't go broke doing it (I will admit that I paid $100/mag for the 22 and 31 round mags, which I don't regret).

    While I don't believe that Glocks are superior firearms to the other options listed here, I have become a believer that they are a better buy, for any person who performs well with them. They are very easy on owners.

    No Koolaid here. I recognize that there are many options that equal Glocks, pistol-to-pistol. They really win big only in market support.
     
  2. basicblur

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    Well I have 3 of the 4 you mentioned - never owned a Glock. :D :uhoh:

    I don't obsess over the triggers - I practice like I think it would be used in SD - I prefer using a 'controlled slap'.

    Anywho - got a couple of SP2022s - one is my bed gun (replaced an old SIGMA that was due for night sight replacement), with a light / laser combo mounted. A nice, smooth trigger, but it does seem to be getting a little on the big side for CC? It's much easier to practice dry firing with the SP2022, but that 12-lb DA trigger pull will wear your finger out PDQ.
    BTW - both were $495, but the first one came with 3 magazines and both grip panels - by the time I bought the second, they had cut it to 2 magazines and it had only the smaller grip panel (both have night sights).

    My main daily carry is an XDSC9 - used to be an XDSC40 (pre-Melonite), but when they redesigned the 9's magazines to hold more rounds, I went from the 40 to the 9. Back when I bought my XDSC40, the 9 held only one more round than the 40.
    I've come awfully close to buying an XD45 compact, but fortunately, our local shop seems to have trouble getting them - he has no problem getting the XD45, but I prefer the 1/2" shorter grip of the compact - I hate stuff hanging below my fist.

    I have an M&P Shield I ankle carry - picked up a used (like new) police special M&P in 357 SIG 'bout a year ago - came with 3 magazines and night sights, under $500.

    A lot of my non gun owning friends have come to me over the last few years looking for recommendations. I usually suggest the XD as a baseline, but I now suggest both the M&P and XD - just depends on whether they want a grip safety or not?
     
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  3. TBH

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    I also was blown away with the prices mentioned here. Six months ago I handled a 2022 at my dealer with a $495 tag. Of course I would never pay $700 for a Glock.
    I have a 226 x5 L-1 that amazes me, an older German 226 that I will never sell, and a 2022 all in 9mm. The 2022 is no slouch. If I am packing under my jacket, its the 2022. Anyone that is interested in buying a pistol, but doesn't want to pay the "P" series prices I let them shoot the 2022. Everyone has been impressed. I always felt it was the best bang for the buck.
     
  4. basicblur

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    Was at the local dealer today - an SP2022 is $479, but now has only one magazine (I assume it still had night sights?).

    His XDSC compacts are $475.
     
  5. gym

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    I own all 3, except the sig, I think that they are pretty much equal in most all respects. I tend to shoot most every gun the same after I get 50 rounds through them. My newest one is the M&Pc, which I traded a shield for. The Shield, in 40 was not equal to the other guns mentioned. Even the sights came misaligned, and the mag release is in a bad spot, "with the extended mag, upon recoil, it is easy to hit the release". I made a mental note after releasing it 3 or 4 times, and I still managed to drop it once in 50 rounds. I got rid of it because of this. I don't believe in fiddling around with polymer guns, they either work right or they don't.
    The M&Pc is a far more refined pistol with all of the bugs out. I think for self defense they are all reliable and simple to take care of, it's just a matter of taste. I would sell any of them if something better came out with no emotional attachment. Currently I carry a XDS in my pocket, it is a nice gun that shoots where you aim it and is small enough to carry anywhere
    2 out of 2 guys who work in my LGS, and myself and another client, had XDS guns in their possession last Sunday.
    I never met a Glock I didn't like, they pretty much all shoot where you point them, every time.
     
  6. Okiegunner

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    I have stated many times over that the 2022 is one of the very best "value" pistols to be found.

    IMO, it is very hard to go wrong with a 2022 purchase.
     
  7. Shuler13

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    This man speaks the truth
     
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