Sig DAK Trigger Poll

[rellascout]

I was wondering what people think of this trigger system. It came up on another board.

It was my opinion that it is not a very popular trigger system and that a lot of shooters know nothing about it and that beyond a few agencies that have adopted it there are not many in the market place.

Another member went on to say that it has a strong presence in the Govt LEO market according to the info he was given at a Sig LEO armorers course he attended. He also stated that " IF you ever have to use it, DAK holds up better in court."

What are the thoughts of THR?

 

[earlthegoat2]

The DAK is just another cookie cutter DAO system. HK LEM is a similar system. It really is like the DAO pistols offered by S&W throughout the years on their 59 series. Those just didnt have the easier pull then a harder one in case a double strike was needed. Served the same purpose though.

The Michigan State Police has switched to these in recent years. I shot one and it felt like any other. I am less than enamored with all these DAO systems and I guess I should be since they are designed to win LE contracts.

LE loves DAO for ease of training and the theoretical lack of accidential discharges. I heard of one MI State Police brass say that the DAK felt much like a revolver. I tend to agree. I suppose you could call it a high capacity revolver.

I dont think it is a bad system but I do think there is nothing remarkable about it. As far as holding up in court, that is anybody's guess. You get the right judge/lawyer/jury combination and anything can happen.

 

[rellascout]

earlthegoat2,

I tend to agree with what you are saying. I have often recommended it to people who are long time revolver shooters looking for a first Semi-auto. I just find its trigger pull way too long for my liking.

As for the legal question you are 100% correct. Its like my underwear. Depends!!!!! on the court, lawyers and facts of the case. What bothered me about the original comment was it was stated as if it were fact and that would apply universally which is on its face false.

I owned a P220 SAS for a little while. I just always felt like I shot my other P220's much better. I considered converting it to DA/SA but in the end felt it was not worth the trouble or cost.

 

[9mmepiphany]

i'm a long time user of DA/SA Sigs and thought of the DAK was a gimmick DAO for LE.

but after shooting a couple in classes and watching students run them very well, i'm beginning to understand them more.

they really are like "high capacity" revolvers and have the benifit of helping newer shooters overcome the tendency to flich. they can be run just as fast as any other system, as long as you factor in accuracy, until you reach the higher levels of competition.

the DAK is an excellent LE general issue weapon, where officers are less inclined to practice their shooting skills.

 

[Teddyb]

In the LE market place I feel as though they will be hard pressed competing with the front runners for any market share. This game was played before between Colt and S&W wasn't it!

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I shot a DAK P226 as a rental and was underwhelmed. It did have a nice trigger pull, I just didn't get the degree of accuracy I wanted. This gun already had an excessively large grip and trigger reach for my hands, which I'm sure didn't help. Really, the only "long stroke" DAO that has ever worked well for me is the Kahr.

 

[chris in va]

...and the Kahr's pull is actually pretty short for DAO, especially compared to my CZ and revolver. IIRC the 'elite' versions are only 3/8".

 

[gtmtnbiker98]

I was issued one for a couple of years and decided to employ my personal DA/SA P229. I could not warm up to DAK. As for liability, the damn trigger has nothing to do with "holding up in court." If it's a clean shoot, then it's a clean shoot, regardless of weapon or trigger system.