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SIG Model 220 10mm Question

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by SwampWolf, May 17, 2021.

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  1. SwampWolf

    SwampWolf Member

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    I'm interested in the SIG model 220 chambered in 10mm. Anybody have experience with this pistol? I'm interested in getting one with fully adjustable sights, s/s, walnut grips and in single-action if possible. Would also like to know what a fair price for a new one would be. Thanks.
     
  2. Tinman357

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    I had one. Had to sell it and many others to cover a funeral.

    Its an awesome gun. Great SAO trigger, accurate as anything I've ever shot. Not for small hands. I swapped out the grips for VZ G-10 grips.

    Heavy. But the recoil was pleasant. Easy on the brass, though it does take a while for the International Space Station to gather it all up from orbit and mail it back to me. (not really that bad, about 15ft)

    I didn't get a chance to shoot it much. I regret selling. At the time I wasn't thinking clear and felt I had to.

    Going prices are right around $1400.00.

    Good luck and enjoy shooting the snot out of it. Photos and a range report when you get it.

    Highly recommended pistol.
     
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  3. 9mmepiphany

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    I haven't shot a factory one yet, but spent extensive time with the custom conversions that preceded it.

    It was interesting but I mostly use my handguns for defensive instruction and competition and the 10mm version didn't do anything better than the one chambered in .45ACP would do. Like every 220, it is very accurate and reliable. It feels a bit larger than a 1911, but points just as well. It is based on the ST models with stainless steel frames, so it is a bit heavier
     
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  4. 460Shooter

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    Yeah I have some experience.


    Expect to pay at least $1200 for a new Stainless SA one, or probably $1500 for a Legion. they are soft shooting guns IMO even with full blown AA#9 loads. The trigger is nice, but not 1911 nice. However the P220 fit's my hand better than a 1911 so the recoil is more pleasant, and that alone is enough to make it a better option for me.

    Two items I had issue with. The dovetail cut on my rear sight was slightly oversized, or the sight was under sized, and they used a single tiny drop of red Loctite on the set screw to secure it. So it started flopping around. Pretty ridiculous IMO. A shim or Loctite is a solution, with the shim being preferred. It may only be an issue with my gun. However CNC machining would possibly indicate otherwise.

    The laminate grip on mine also cracked, and they are made by Hogue, so I'm a bit surprised. I replaced them with black G10 Extreme grips from Hogue, and a set of stainless screws. I actually like the two tone look better than the red laminates grip look. though I was eyeballing Nill Grips for it. But ultimately, I'm worried the recoil would end up battering them, and this is a field pistol for me, not a range only gun. G10 grips seem a better option.

    All in all I really like them and think they are fine shooters. If I had to choose one, I'd really struggle, as the other is a DA/SA with night sights.
     
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  5. tommy.duncan

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    Like 460Shooter, I have experience too!! Sig 10mm DA-SA.jpg Sig 10mm SAO.jpg
    They are very accurate, they can handle very hot 10mm, they tame the recoil quite well. I don't have the Legion P220 in 10mm but, I have 2 smokin' Sig 10mm's. You will receive nothing but praise from me for this platform in 10mm.
     
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    As others have said I have a 10mm Sig 220 SA/DA. Great shooting gun. For the size and weight the number of rounds in a magazine could be better, but it is a Sig :)
     
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    I have been on the hunt for the two-tone one ever since 460Shooter posted his in my 10mm thread. I currently only have a G40 MOS, and a DW Specialist right now. That Sig, and a G20 are in my future.

    Only negative I have read on the Sigs are the ones with Kryptex finish. Apparently it's some type of film that starts peeling off. This is NOT personal experience, just something I have come across a few times while going down the rabbit hole of research.
     
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  8. 460Shooter

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    Same gun, replacement grips.
    D81A32C7-99F4-41DD-A0BF-758DBBBF3566.jpeg
     
  9. SwampWolf

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    Thanks everyone for the helpful information. As an aside, I've read that it's possible to fire .40 S&W in a 10mm gun, even if only one shot at a time. I'm not advocating or even contemplating doing so but, if ever in a "pinch" (no 10mm ammo available), I'm curious if it's possible to do so safely.
     
  10. 460Shooter

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    You can, though the cartridge will headspace on the extractor. Accuracy may suffer a bit.

    The better solution is to load your own, and if you want light loads, just make them.

    I would never even consider a 10mm if I wasn't loading my own ammo, or prepared to spend a fortune on good factory ammo. Most of it is watered down crap.
     
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    I can attest to that.

    The Glock 20 is very "forgiving" as far as that is concerned.

    Not recommended, of course...
     
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    I have several sigs. No kryptex but a legion and several in black/nitron or whatever sig calls it. They all show wear far faster than a Glock or HK in my experience. Purely cosmetic. They wear a bit then it stops. Ive heard the stainless ones are harder and show wear less. No experience though with those.

    Not a knock on sig. Excellent guns.
     
  13. Otto

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    The only SIG 10mm that's still cataloged is the Legion. It has crappy night sights and plastic grips. You'd be lucky to find a new one under $1700.
    I would have suggested a 357sig in 226 but SIG has discontinued the 357sig caliber completely (as well as 40S&W). I suspect the 10mm is headed to the chopping block as well.
    5 years ago, there were 19 variations of the P220....only 3 remain now and two of those are limited run productions. SIG ain't what it used to be.
     
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    I think that it's more that the market for pistols ain't what it used to be. It would seem that buyers are much more interested in 9mm polymer striker micros and subcompacts and Sig Sauer is in the business of meeting the larger direction of customer demand.

    That said, I have a couple of Sig P229 Legions (a .40 S&W w/ a .357 Sig bbl and a Legion 9mm conversion kit with Romeo 1 red dot) and an unfired 9mm. I also have an unfired P220 .45ACP Legion. Looking at the current pricing of new Sigs, I almost hate to shoot the unfired ones. My 10mms are 1911s...they're great.

    Harry
     
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    That's disappointing. If I can't get a s/s Model 220 in 10mm at a "decent" price, I'll start looking for a Third Generation Smith & Wesson pistol, chambered in 10mm, in the gun shows I regularly attend.
     
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    I happen to like the XRay sights and Legion grips, myself. Quite a bit, in fact.

    Unless they've changed both in the couple years since I bought my 226
     
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  17. 460Shooter

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    The stainless Elite series like mine is a Lipseys exclusive. Check gunbroker.
     
  18. SwampWolf

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    Since the SIG pistol I'm interested in seems to have morphed into a unicorn in terms of availability and affordability, as noted, I'm going to start looking for another unicorn in terms of availability but maybe a bit more affordable, a Third Generation Smith, chambered in 10mm. I plan on starting a new thread to get some more information and insight on these Jurassic Park survivors.
     
  19. Otto

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    If I was hell bent on a 10mm, I'd be looking for a Delta Elite. Preferably made in the '80's or '90's.... when Colt made decent guns. Maybe CZ can turn things around.

    Smith's are a good choice too and built like tanks.
     
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  20. 9mmepiphany

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    Good note to close on
     
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