Sig P365

[jeff-10]

I know there lots of conspiracy theories regarding the self firing 320. Looking at getting a 365. What the chance the model with a traditional safety can accidentally self fire?

 

[JmacD]

I’ve treated mine pretty tough and ran it hard… I tried some dropping etc as well. No issues.

 

[tommy.duncan]

I bought a very early P365.
I had no problems with it.
It shoots great, no malfunctions, plenty of holster options, moved it into CCW rotation pretty quickly.
Then...my wife shot it...it's now her CCW.
So, I had to go out and buy a second one so I could still have one to CCW.
No problems here, and I (we) have 2 that see lots of carry.

 

[Old Dog]

I know there lots of conspiracy theories regarding the self firing 320. Looking at getting a 365. What the chance the model with a traditional safety can accidentally self fire?

Pretty much... ZERO.

 

[halfmoonclip]

Even the 320 issues seem to be largely vaporware. The 365 is a different design, and I'm a long time member at Sigtalk. There are no trending threads over there; have a look if you like.
It's a great little gun; get a 365 with confidence.
Moon

 

[dsk]

There have been no reports on the SIG forums about P365s self-discharging. The only problems they were known for were some strikers and trigger springs breaking early on, but those issues are pretty much in the past now.

 

[JDeere]

I carry both, the 365XL and an XTen with no issues. The key is a good holster along with a good head on your shoulders. As @halfmoonclip stated the 320 issues are vaporware these days...

 

[Jntrees]

My favorite handgun by far. I've shot thousands of rounds through it. Everything from flat nose to hollow points; 115 to 147 gr. It's been flawless for me.
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[CapnMac]

No issues with my 365X at all

Gets carried near every day

There were gripe, in the first six months or so about the striker springs, but no reports of randomly discharging.

In some fairness, unlike other SIG pistols, the 365 was not issued en masse to swathes of LEO or any number of E-4 mafias--and those groups have some notoriety in finding ways to beat "foolproof" things.

 

[Average Joe]

As I understand it, the problem is with the P320 only... no other Sig's have had this problem.

 

[Jntrees]

As I understand it, the problem is with the P320 only... no other Sig's have had this problem.

Not to get off topic but I'm not convinced that it really was an issue.
I've seen some videos where even the experts break down the gun itself and can't find any issues.

 

[Walkalong]

In the beginning there was talk about primer swipe and possible broken strikers, but that has long been addressed.

My P-365 is a low serial number unit that I was unable to break, and I shot the snot out of it to test it/get familiar with it.

Love it.

First range trip, five different loads, no failures in a couple hundred rounds from light to full power.

 

[Buzznrose]

So after all the back and forth and how great they are (not just here…at classes and other forums), I decided to buy another P365 as the last one I had just didn’t impress and I sold it for what I paid. My new one is a P365 Macro Comp. Today, I finally got it out to the range. I put probably 150
rounds through it. It’s sighted in fine and shoots well, but I’m honestly unimpressed.

The trigger is a bit lighter, but not any better than my stock Glock 48 trigger. A fair bit of creep and grit. I’m hoping it breaks in after 500 or so rounds. Is there anything else I should do?

Another interesting thing is the slide released and went forward almost every time I seated a fully loaded magazine. Is that normal? I know some of my Glocks do it pretty regularly but I didn’t know Sig’s did.

Anywho, more to follow as I shoot it more.

 

[Old Dog]

Another interesting thing is the slide released and went forward almost every time I seated a fully loaded magazine. Is that normal?

Eh, that's been common for years with many semi-autos (the S&W M&Ps that my department issued since 2008 were notorious for this); it's common in a lot of smaller auto pistols with tight springs and is really not a concern (unless the hammer or striker follows and fires the chambered round, of course).

As an aside, I have all but made a final conclusion that the SIG P-365XL is might just be (in the words of John Taffin) the "perfect packing pistol." Punches way above its weight class, shoots like a full-size pistol, has decent capacity coupled with splendid ergonomics, good sights and a darn good trigger.

 

[jmr40]

I bought 2. One for me, another for my wife. Both have the safety. I like them.

 

[Lo-Profile]

I have the 365xl

Added a Wilson Combat Grip Module with the three tungsten weights. No complaints. Been my EDC recently

 

[Walkalong]

Loved the P-365 so much (and I shoot it just as well with the ten round mag vs the extended 12-surprised me),
that I ended up with a Macro, and want a 365X.

 

[rust collector]

I am sure some will find fault, but I have no complaints with my standard and xl. I did install a Wilson Combat grip module on the xl and enjoy shooting it, but the little guy, with a Hogue HandAll installed gets most of the carry time.

 

[sparkyv]

I've had the original standard version since 2019. No manual safety. It hasn't gone off on its own, nor have my P320s with no manual safeties.

 

[Rodfac]

Great gun...I have the first edition....~2000 rounds through it since new in 2019 & with virtually zero malfunctions. It feeds: LSWC's, JHPs & FMJ's without a glitch. I've had my better accuracy with mid-weight bullets ~124 grains, than with lighter or heavier.

With great sights, and grips that fit my hands, a decent trigger & good capacity, it's as accurate as my full size duty pistols out to at least 15 yds.

All said, it shoots and handles every bit as good as my P225, P226, and P229. I say, it's about perfect for a carry piece as I'm ever likely to find. Here's one of the first ten shot targets I shot with it during initial break-in; using Fed 124 gr FMJ Am. Eagle ammunition from an unsupported, two handed Weaver Stance. Best regards, Rod

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[PCFlorida]

Yep, every thing that Rodfac above this entry said. Shoots great, accurate and I have been carrying it for 5+ years. Love it!

 

[Alllen Bundy]

The P365 is NOT inherently drop safe. If the velocity of impact to the rear of the slide is sufficient it will fire!
Making the Sig P365 Series Drop Safe.

Making the Sig P365 Series Drop Safe.

Is the Sig P365 Series Drop Safe? If I were to suggest that you should remove the inertial trigger safety (Bladed Trigger) from a Glock, most people could call me crazy, as that would likely cause the pistol to fire when dropped onto the rear of the slide. But what about the Sig P365 series...

www.thehighroad.org

If you have a manual safety engaged the P365 is NOT likely to drop fire.

Whether or not the P320 can self fire hasn't really been proven. But the early P320s DID have a drop fire problem which Sig addressed with some modifications. Whether or not Sig cured the drop fire issue of the P320 is a good question.

 

[rust collector]

There will always be room for improvement in any consumer product. That is why we have a thriving aftermarket. A claim that a carry pistol should be drop safe from atop a ladder or when dropped while traveling at 70 miles an hour overlooks the adverse effects of modifications that would be necessary to make that happen. The human will usually be the weak point when it comes to safety. Once upon a time we were taught about empty chambers in a revolver, fail safe hammer lowering and keeping actions open until time to fire.

It is frustrating that Toyota engineers dictate that my car cannot approach a slower truck with cruise control engaged. Theoretical failure modes exist in all things, but compromise and balance is part of life as we know it. The P365 has a good safety record, but as I have taught my hunter safety kids, all mechanical things can and do fail.

 

[Alllen Bundy]

There will always be room for improvement in any consumer product. That is why we have a thriving aftermarket. A claim that a carry pistol should be drop safe from atop a ladder or when dropped while traveling at 70 miles an hour overlooks the adverse effects of modifications that would be necessary to make that happen. The human will usually be the weak point when it comes to safety. Once upon a time we were taught about empty chambers in a revolver, fail safe hammer lowering and keeping actions open until time to fire.

It is frustrating that Toyota engineers dictate that my car cannot approach a slower truck with cruise control engaged. Theoretical failure modes exist in all things, but compromise and balance is part of life as we know it. The P365 has a good safety record, but as I have taught my hunter safety kids, all mechanical things can and do fail.

A product needs to be safe in the environment in which it is being used. Using an inertial trigger safety (bladed trigger) will very likely make either the P320 or the P365 impact safe at 70 MPH. I contend that lightening the trigger will have the same effect. I've already performed a strength test proving that my lightened trigger is more than strong enough. Even after the trigger bent it was still fully functional.

And just what adverse effect will lightening the trigger of a P365 have? Don't forget that lightening the trigger is what Sig did to the P320 to address it's drop firing problem.

The P365 has an easily solvable DESIGN issue.

 

[9mmepiphany]

And just what adverse effect will lightening the trigger of a P365 have? Don't forget that lightening the trigger is what Sig did to the P320 to address it's drop firing problem.

We're discussing the SIG 365 in this thread, please don't drag in alleged 320 issues into it. The 320 issues have been addressed in that very different system and lightening the trigger was only a small part of their solution