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Sig Sauer Rep at one of my LGS tomorrow... What would you ask him?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Hokkmike, Jun 14, 2018.

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  1. Hokkmike

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    A rep from Sig Sauer will be at National Sporting Goods in Williamsport, PA tomorrow. I have a few question about my new P-365 which I am, overall, very happy with.

    If you has a chance to talk with this gentleman what questions would you have for him?
     
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    When will an all steel version of the P227 come out that's chambered in 10mm? I'd like a stainless Elite Version, and a Legion version, and a purple version for when I'm feeling silly, but still need to stop a Buick.

    I love my 10mm P220, but double stack capacity is what they need.
     
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  3. Corpral_Agarn

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    Is it true they are discontinuing the P239?

    Any new products coming down the pipe we might be interested in?
     
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    Sorry, there is no model 239.
     
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    Hokkmike

    "Are you giving out any free samples today? Guns, ammo, accessories...will take anything you've got!"
     
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  7. WrongHanded

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    How about, "When are you going to make another production run of .357 Sig barrels for the P224, and the 12 round extended mags?"

    But that's probably of more interest to me than it is to most.

    The stainless framed P227 in 10mm is a very good question indeed. I might even start shooting 10mm if they made one of those.
     
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    Yeah, I was hoping they might have a discount of 365 12 round magazines but I don't think so. I am not even sure that SIG makes those...
     
  10. Blue Feather

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    This is not a rant nor a veiled attempt at humor. I would ask him why Sig lost their way with this attempt to be all things to all people? Further, would they consider going back to what made them great? The original platform is brilliant——the detent of an 11-12 lb DA trigger pull followed by a smooth 4.5 lb SA trigger pull. There is so much inherent safety in a hammer fired pistol. They did it right.
     
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    I dont think a rep would be able to answer that...

    "Why are you guys screwing up" is a tough one to answer.
     
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    I’ve been an outside sales guy for 30 years. It’s all about how you go about it. I would pull him off to the side and say it with a smile on my face. These Reps need to be providing feed back to their employer or client company. The German Sigs were excellent. My first NH P239 .40 didn’t make it though the first box of factory ammo.
     
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    I think it's less a case of Sig losing their way, and more a case of the market dictating their path (at least to some degree). People want compact, striker fired, low recoiling, light-weight polymer guns, that are competitively priced. Me? I just bought a P224 precisely because I like the design of the DA/SA system, and like the extra weight to offset the recoil of a .40 S&W (and hopefully .357 Sig). But that's not what most people want. And if the P239 is being discontinued, it's not because it's not a great gun (it surely is!). It's because it has a single stack magazine, is relatively heavy, and quite expensive compared to other products on the market.

    I can't fault people for wanting a sub-compact, light-weight, high capacity (for the size), simple to use, and affordable polymer pistol in 9mm. So it's hard to fault Sig for following the market. However, I do agree with your assessment of the quality of the original platform.
     
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    Why are spare magazine so expensive?!
     
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    1. Any new variations on p365 ? I would especially like one with internal coatings like the Mk 25 and M11A1. This is key for EDC.

    2. Any plans for a p365 in .380 (maybe call it a p380) ?
     
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    +1 I agree.
    On paper, the P239 is not a great CCW piece.
    Too heavy, Too big, Lower capacity, etc.

    But they sure do shoot really well.
    another +1
     
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    " hows that quality control coming along ?"
    Remember Swiss/ German engineering and quality control is what put you guys on the map !!!!!!!
     
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    That was the question I was just about to ask. I would l would like to ask about the possibility of a locked breech DA/SA or DAO .380. Of course the answer will be no. However, if people don't ask there is no way that they will recognize that there is a demand.
     
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    When exactly will the Legion 229 SAO be shipping.
     
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    Who is making SIG red dot sights for you?
     
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    I would ask the following. "Since SIG has admitted (but not widely disseminated the information) that a bunch of P365 pistols made from February through April of this year had MIM strikers that were out of spec, and that a significant number of people who bought those have experienced broken striker tips (often after round counts running in the several hundreds), how can you justify not issuing a recall on those pistols knowing they are prone to catastrophic failure without prior warning?"

    I would also ask if they plan to redesign the trigger bar spring on the P365 (which has been known to become displaced resulting in a dead trigger), another catastrophic failure that has occurred after round counts of up to nearly 900 rounds, again without prior warning.
     
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    I agree, considering the polymer offerings available. And also agree, if 9mm is the caliber of choice. But after carrying one for over a year (my wife has it now), I found it to be an excellent carry gun in .40 S&W. 7+1 capacity, and easily controllable, but not too wide or too long (in either direction) to conceal comfortable in a Crossbreed IWB holster. And, as you mentioned, it shoots really well, which is a big part of a self defense EDC gun.

    But it does not fit the current mold of what is commonly considered a CC pistol.
     
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    You’re spot on. HK figured out the polymer/light weight/hammer fired platform ergo the P30, P2000 and HK45 Compact. That’s why the P30S .40 is my concealed carry platform.
     
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    Yeah.

    P239 is my primary CCW piece and will likely remain that way for some time.

    Unless I am CCW'ing a Model 10 or some other revolver
     
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