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Sign at RDU airport entrance

Discussion in 'Legal' started by RoyG, Aug 11, 2005.

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  1. RoyG

    RoyG Member

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    Why is the airport at RDU posted "FIREARMS PROHIBITED" "VIOLATORS WILL BE PROSECUTED". Does this mean if I were to bring a firearm (unloaded of course) locked in a shipping container in my suitcase to check in my baggage for a flight I would be arrested?

    FYI this sign is a VERY LARGE sign at the entrance to the airport.

    RDU=Raleigh-Durham, NC
     
  2. hutch77

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    RDU sign

    Did this sign go up recently? I was there over the July 4th and didn't notice it.


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    It's been there for a while- I know I've seen it over the past year during a couple of trips out there. But I've often wondered the same thing- do people get prosecuted for flying with firearms? :confused:
     
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    It'd be interesting to hear the justification, since flying with a gun in checked baggage is legal.

    Had you thought of just calling or going in and contacting a SENIOR AIRPORT OFFICIAL (not some minimum wage worker or security guard or cop who probably won't know diddly) and asking them?
     
  5. rick_reno

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    That sign is for terrorists - you have nothing to worry about. They can't say "Terrorists with FIREARMS PROHIBITED", that would profiling and it's illegal.
     
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    :D Good one, Rick!
     
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    This is a good point. You need to know the law that gives force to that sign. There may not be one . . . .
     
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    I should have known our courageous government would be working behind the scenes to protect us.
     
  9. RoyG

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    In NC our CCW law covers this.

    Places off-limits while carrying

    Where notice of carrying a concealed handgun is prohibited by the posting of a conspicuous notice or statement.

    Now as far as banning ALL firearms I'm not sure about that. We do not have a open carry law here but car carry must be in the open.

     
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    I don't give a fig what any particular State law is. Flying with a firearm in checked baggage is explicitly legal. No state, county, municipality or airport has the legal ability, much less right, to prevent you from abiding by federal law on what is allowable in checked baggage for interstate transport. The airlines may have particular regs on "how", but not "if".

    Thus the state or airport can, under the law, go pound sand.

    In Alaska in particular, I can conceal right on up to the security checkpoint (the "sterile zone"). It is only there that legal prohibition on possession or transportation is enforceable.
     
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    Try flying into New York City, Chicago, or Washington DC with a firearm.
     
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    I overstated didn't I. :D

    Anyway, that would fall under the Federal lawful transportation regulations, would it not? which doesn't help when the police come to harass you.

    Besides, as long as you don't open your bag, going into the forbidden lands who's to know. It's getting them out by checking legally that is the problem.

    Stupid anti's.
     
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    Don't worry, once some nutjob crashes his pickup through the front of the airport and starts shooting people at random, THE SIGN SHAL SAVE US. :banghead: Knew someone at work who worked "airport security" at one point. He said that he would be the first one out the door if something bad where to happen, hen wasn't paid enough to protect anyone. He was basicly there for eye candy.
     
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    So this federal law creates a preemption of state laws? Are you sure? Could you cite the USC number? I would like to read up on this.
     
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    TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 44 > § 926A Prev | Next

    § 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms


    Release date: 2004-08-06

    Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

    (underlining courtesy of me)
     
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    Interesting. That word Notwithstanding has always confused me a little. Does the word notwithstanding create a preemption of all other laws?

    Also, the from any place to any place clause, if you choose to read the law conservatively, would seem to prohibit transport from an airport where possession is prohibited, or transport to an airport where possession is prohibited.
     
  17. Kharn

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    Yes.
    The airport does not count as your final destination. For example, if you were flying from your house to Grandma's, then your house is the origin and Grandma's is the destination, not the airports in-between. Of course, NY supposedly ignores this law and prosecutes anyone found with a firearm without a permit.

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    "Try flying into New York City, Chicago, or Washington DC with a firearm."

    There are no airports in Washington, DC. Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport is located in Arlington, Virginia. Even the Air Force base in Washington DC does not have a runway.
     
  19. Kharn

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    brickeyee's right, everyone thinks Reagan National is in DC but its across the Potomac river.

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