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Sig's P938

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by SN13, Aug 11, 2012.

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  1. SN13

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    I've been carrying a Colt Mustang Pocketlite .380 for the past 6 years. I love the little gun. SAO, Thumb Safety, 6+1 .380. Awesome to shoot. Never a Fail to Feed or Fire. Great little guns.

    So a few years back Sig made their Colt Mustang Copy (Sig P238). And I looked at them, they were nice but the slide was a little bulkier. I couldn't justify purchasing one, since my trusty old colt was working just fine....

    Well Sig upped the ante with a 9mm version of their P238, the P938.... The clone of my beloved Colt 'Stang.

    With an MSRP of 790-823 depending on the model, I balked at the price, but thought, "If i can find one priced under $650, I'll take it home".

    I visited the local Gun show this morning with a wad of cash in my hand. Row after row of knives, Leather, WW2 Trinkets, Beef Jerky, Fudge, and bolt-on accessories overwhelm the tables. (Where are the GUNS?)

    I perused the aisles searching for a Sig 938. On the 5th Aisle, the first sighting a Sig 938 Extreme: (http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/p938-extreme.aspx) Price on the tag? $799.00 (OUCH!).

    "Can I help you?" asked the gentleman.
    "Yes. I'd like to purchase that gun but your price is a bit high." I replied.
    "MSRP is $823, I'm not going lower than that."
    "Thanks"... And I move on.

    A few more aisles, and a second sighting. This time, the Nightmare.. Black with Stainless Slide Release and Safety. (Not listed on Sig's Website). Price? $799 (CRAP, Again!?)

    "Can I help you?" the salesman asked.
    "I'd like to give you money, just not as much as you're asking" I reply.
    "Whatcha interested in?"
    "The P938..."
    "If I could get more at the drop of a hat from sig, i'd be pricing them at $650, but I've got 24 on backorder as it is, so Best I can do is $730 Cash"
    "Thanks" I said.

    I start to think, it may be too early to get one of these little 9's at a decent price. Or maybe I'm too cheap with my price?

    A few aisles later I stumbled upon a few Sig 938s.... Extreme and Nightmare and Rosewood. All are priced at $639.... $639!!!!!

    "Can I help you?"
    "Yes, I'm buying this gun." I reply with a grin.

    $685 bucks later (Tax and Background) I'm walking out of the Gunshow with a new P938 Extreme... Why the extreme over the sexy Nightmare?

    THe Extreme comes with 2 mags! one 7rd with finger extension, 1 6rd flush fit.... the others models, 1 mag. I don't believe there are any mags for sale from sig currently.

    SOOOOOO anyway, I took some photos of the Colt and Sig next to each other.

    Here you are. I know this post is worthless without pics!

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  2. 2wheels

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    Let us know how it shoots, I may end up replacing my P238 with one someday. It'd be nice to stop having to buy .380 (my baby Sig is the only .380 I own). I'd certainly get more practice time on the 938.
     
  3. wally

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    I though I did good at $668+tax for my "Extreme". The 7 round mag is easier to grip when shooting but the 6 round flush mag carries a lot better for me.

    Mine shot very well the first time out where I ran about 100 rounds of a variety of ammo through it. No issues using 15 rounds of Monarch (Privi) brass, 30 rounds of PMC, 30 rounds of Tula steel case, and 30 rounds of my 147gr reloads.

    It won't replace my Kahr PM40 for carry, but I have a weakness for guns that are small for their caliber, this one sure qualifies. I'm a cocked'n'locked guy at heart, so if they make one in .40S&W it would replace my Kahr if it proved reliable.
     
  4. TennJed

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    Held one yesterday in my local Sportsman's Warehouse. It was $689 (not sure which model). Really impressed with the feel of it. They also had a Beretta Nano and the Sig seemed much smaller in the hand (I know the specs do not back that up).

    After holding it I really really wanted it. Please keep us updated with the performance.
     
  5. SN13

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    Took her to the range today.

    Between my buddy and I, we put about 200 rounds through her. She fed and fired everything (We had a few different brands/weights of 9mm boxed ammo).

    We shot the P938, Colt Mustang .380, and a Ruger LCP. In my HONEST opinion, the Ruger was the most violent in the hand. That thing is AWFUL to shoot. The Colt was unanimously the best to shoot, feeling like a .22lr. The P938 was comfortable to shoot and easy to control. I really liked it.

    BUT....

    The Problem we Both had was with a few rounds failing to Extract. The first time it happened I was doing a super-light "limp-wrist" test one handed. So I chalked it up to that.

    On the SECOND failure to extract, we began noting the ammo and mag etc.

    Neither one of us had any FTE with the 6rd mag, but the 7rd mag both gave us FTE's.

    Now I don't know if the extra spring tension on the 7rd mag was causing the slide to slow down and that caused the extractor to not quite grab the rim, but the issue happened with all the types of ammo, but only in the 7rd.

    The gun fired, the Slide racked back, but the spent brass remained in the chamber. The following round got jammed into/under the fired and partially extracted round.

    Upon inspection of the brass, it looks like the extractor grabbed onto the SIDE of the rim and didn't quite make it AROUND the rim.
     
  6. Esoxchaser

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    Congrats on the 938. I just picked up a Nightmare today, and already had three of the 7 rd mags I bought earlier this week in anticipation. I was a bit surprised and disappointed to see that the gun didn't come with the plastic belt holster that the 238 and many other guns come with. I ran 250 rounds through it with not a single issue. I was using Magtech 115 grain FMJ, Blazer 115 FMJ, Federal 115 FMJ and Hornady Critical Defense in 115's. I was very, very impressed with the gun. Accurate and it just feels right in the hand.
    Sig has hit it out of the park IMHO. I hope your FTE issues are resolved quickly. I will be running another couple hundred through mine tomorrow or Sunday. Hope it is as good as it was today.
     
  7. Tommygunn

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    Well don't feel too bad, I have a P 238 and it did not come with a holster.
    I have a P 290 that did, except I prefer a Galco pocket holster for it. The Sig holster is nice but.....doesn't have a real retention mechanism and isn't as "covert" as the inside pocket holster that I have.
    Had I not got a P 290 I would have loved a P 938. Just can't afford the $$$$ right now though.
     
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    Took the gun into my LGS. We tried a bunch of different leather on it. Settled on a Galco Stinger made for a S&W Bodyguard .380. It has decent retention new, as long as it doesn't loosen up too much with use while I am waiting for my custom job. (16-18 WEEKS!)
     
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    They had a few yesterday at the show for $620. My dad almost came home with it.
     
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    He wouldn't have been disappointed, especially at that price. I paid $659 for the Nightmare. Saw the Extreme for $749 the other day.
     
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    I'm holding out for an all stainless model, as I don't like aluminum alloys or plastics in guns. I hope they add an all steel model to the list.
     
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    At that price, I would have probably bought one myself, if I didn't have an Arsenal SGL-31 lookin at me with those puppy dog eyes lol.
     
  13. GEM

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    A friend of mine brought one to the IDPA match. He shoot it very well but he is a very high level IDPA shooter. It was a hoot. However, loading the mags to capacity was really difficult. He had about 100 rounds through it at the time.

    It's tempting. He also has a 238 which looks like fun.
     
  14. Esoxchaser

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    I move around a lot here at work. At the moment I have the 938 on my belt with a 238 in my pocket. It's a lot easier and keeps me more mobile than carrying one full sized gun, with the added benefit of a back up.
     
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    I Was able to remedy the situation and put 200rds through her without issues. Most were 115gr.
     
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    I have a P238, how does the P938 compare for pocket carry?
     
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    Interesting. My friend and I are having identical problems, both 6 and 7 rd mags.

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=672195



    How, exactly?
     
  18. Esoxchaser

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    Perfect for jacket pocket carry. Just a tad heavy for front pocket carry IMHO, unless you are wearing heavy duty, roomy work denims. It disappears on a belt, even owb.
    I don't like back pocket carry with anything, so I have no unprejudiced opinion.
     
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    what's the difference between the nightmare and the extreme?
     
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    The difference is the grips, and the Nightmare has mill finish on the safety levers, mag release and slide release while the Extreme is all black. The Extreme comes with a 6 and 7 round mag. The Nightmare comes with but one 6 round. (But I got three 7's to go with mine).
     
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    Thanks. I guess my friend's is the extreme. BTW got a good source for more 7 round mags?

    SN13 I'd still like to hear what you did to rectify the extraction/jamming issues. :)
     
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    I shot a p938 last week at the range. I found it easier to shoot and more accurate than my p238. When i got home, I immediately put my p238 up for sale while there is still a market for them. I believe we will see a lot of p238's for sale in the next year.
     
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    Yeah, what's up with keeping secrets? There are a few other 938 owners out there (me, for one) who would like to know.
     
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    John Flagg,
    Gmp Parts Company, 111 Quaking Aspen Way, Etna, WY. Tel: 307-883-7500

    Only dealt with him once, just recently for the 938 mags, but I certainly will in the future.
    Very nice guy, quite knowledgeable of all things Sig and HK. The mags and shipping were priced right, and very prompt.
     
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