SigSauer vs. Glock

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For my first hand gun purchase when I turn 21, I've been looking into the Sig P239 (which is still likely my first choice for size and concealability once I have my permit). The thing shoots like a dream, period, any firing mode.

However, I've recently also been introduced to the Glock and its overall amazing durability. The gun just seems to never stop shooting, no matter what. Sigs are pretty reliable, but the Glock seems to be like the pricey handgun version of the AK-47 in that regard.

So I'm just curious, your thoughts?
 
you already know it seems
sig more accurate
glock with its looser tolerances = more reliable
 
I'm a Springfiled XD guy, so I'm neutral:D

oh wait, I do own a couple of sig's too.

My opinion is it doesn't matter really....both are good reliable weapons.

I personally like DA/SA all metal construction for a first handgun...will last you forever and good to get used to DA/SA design rather than striker design as it is so fundamental, but again I see plenty of people start out with plastic guns and do fine.

WHATEVER you feel comfortable with and can shoot accurately.

Don't let me start suggesting a CZ or Springfield XD because you'd want them instead of a sig or a Block:evil:
 
I'm a Glock or Kahr guy

Sig is okay. I prefer the lower bore axis of the Glock, which reduces felt recoil. I also like the Glocks / Kahr consistent trigger pull. If I ever got another Sig (I owned a 220 and a 226 in the past) it would be the DAO model, whatever Sig calls it.
 
You should also consider the Ruger SR9 and the Smith & Wesson M&P. There are so many excellent guns you kinda hafta try to go wrong. If the price of the Sig isn't a problem I'd think it's the one.
 
I cannot understand the logic of a DA/SA action, if you like the long pull of the DA then use a DA only auto. The transition from DA to SA, in my opinion is distracting and time consuming as you need to slightly alter your grip when the change is made. To really shine some light on the subject, competive shooters (IPSIC and IDPA) perfer two types of actions, single (1911 ) and striker fired (Glock, M&P etc) over DA/SA types as they are faster and the trigger feel is the same from start to finish. I have owned and shot both and I prefer the striker fired for it's consistent action.
 
Either Glock or Sig will be plenty reliable enough. That is the only place they compare. Glock compact 9mm is high cap plastic the Sig is metal single stack low round count. Sig is bigger money Glock is popcorn. Get both. :D
 
Both are good guns. I'd go with the Glock, especially the compact models:G19,23,32,38.

The Sigs Da/sa trigger is obsolete. The Glocks trigger can be upgraded into an excellent trigger very easy.

The Glock draws faster, is lighter, and smoother. The Glock can be repaired cheaply and quickly. Its about as tuneable as an AR15. Every single part for it is out there.....the best part is none are needed if you want to go that route.

Both are reliable. Seen some bad news from both camps lately, but thats just the net being the net.


All the bigger gun stores have tons of Sigs and are sold out on most Glocks. I don't think people want a fancy version of a Ruger p95 or M9 for the price of a 1911. Then again, you have to buy a ton of Sig pistols to get a chance to sell the Sig 556 and p556. One shop claimed he had to buy $10,000 dollars worth of Sig pistols before he could buy a 556. Thats only 12 pistols. But that might be why I'm seeing piles of Sigs everywhere.

I'm still biased, Glock or 1911, everything else falls short on performance. Sig deos make 1911's though..........


Glock>Sig
Sig>HK
1911s>/=Glock
 
You should try both out and decide for yourself. I bought a G17 in 1987 and could never shoot it well. I chalked it up to the trigger and the grip angle. I bought a P239 and was amazed at how well I was able to shoot it.
 
You really can't go wrong with either. The best thing you probably can do is play with both at a gun store and see if one fits your hand more comfortably, etc.

For me, my sig 226 just fits my hand perfectly. I can also hit the mag release and slide release easily and quickly with my thumb, making quick reloads (should i actually be in a shtf situation) possible.

One advantage of sig over glock, i think, is that you can buy a .40 sig and all you need to do to shoot .357 sig out of it is change the barrel. Sig sells the replacement barrels, and once you learn to field strip and reassemble the gun, you could swap barrels in under a minute (so it's very feasible to do at the range). I'm not sure if you can do this with a glock.

I think Glock mags are a lot cheaper, by the way. That may be something to consider as well.
 
I have a G35 which I love, but if I had to do it over again I would get a pistol with a barrel that was OK with lead bullets. If you reload, you I would give the nod to the Sig. I know you can get an aftermarket barrel, but that's just one more thing.
 
Your own words;

"I've been looking into the Sig P239 (which is still likely my first choice for size and concealability once I have my permit). The thing shoots like a dream, period, any firing mode."

Sounds like you almost have your mind made up and I can't fault your logic. Once you get out to the range and get your hand behind one of these firearms, you will have your own informed opinions, and those are the opinions that count.

Personally, I like the P225 I have now and I'd like to have my old P228 back. I think the G17 and G19 are also very good. But "IMHO" the P225 and P228 are two of the very best 9mm just plain fun shooters to be had.

I agree with King Ghidora, since I also own a Sig P220 and I also like mine. Agree 100% that its very accurate and ergonomic. But I know a guy who shoots the 10mm Glock 20 like its a tackdriver; most of the time its the skill of shooter and not the pistol itself that makes the difference, and that's the fact! - skeeter_08
 
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Your own words;

"I've been looking into the Sig P239 (which is still likely my first choice for size and concealability once I have my permit). The thing shoots like a dream, period, any firing mode."

Sounds like you almost have your mind made up and I can't fault your logic. Once you get out to the range and get your hand behind one of these firearms, you will have your own informed opinions, and those are the opinions that count.

Personally, I like the P225 I have now and I'd like to have my old P228 back. I think the G17 and G19 are very good also. But "IMHO" the P225 and P228 are two of the very best 9mm just plain fun shooters to be had. - skeeter_08
 
I have a Sig P239 and a Glock 34. I prefer (and am a better shot with) the Glock, but it's not a reasonable carry.

I've shot a lot of the shorter Glocks (17 (4.5"). 19 (4"). 26 (3.5)) with the 26 being closest to the size of the P239 in terms of barrel length.

So, comparing the 26 with the P239 I'd give the nod to the P239. They're both awesome guns, but in a short barrel (not a "micro" barrel) I'd prefer to have the weight to keep things smoother. That will increase your carry weight - but it may help if you need to use that carry arm.

The other side of this of course is if you prefer a "lively fire". I think the shorter Glocks are a lot of fun to shoot - I think the Sig is easier to shoot accurately.

Given that this is your first, it won't be your last... I'd think past this being your carry weapon, and approach it more from the angle of "this is my carry weapon for now". :) For me, I've found it makes more sense to carry a Kel-Tec PF-9, my other carriers a Kahr PM9. For us, those became the most reasonable weapons to cart around.
 
If you are serious about concealed carry the Sig would be a great choice. However, the Glock will be more reliable. I can make most Sigs fail just by getting them dirty. If you are good about maintaining the Sig and clean it after each shoot you won't have that problem.

You can't go wrong either way.
 
Sounds like you want concealed carry, my first choice would be the Sig 239 as the ONE gun. 9mm Single stack, with a ton of options so you can suit the gun to you.

Anyways concealed carry is a very personal thing. What may work for one person may not work for another. Try them both, try the holsters available for both.

Personally I carry a Sig P228R and a Ruger LCP. The 228R is my primary, the Ruger is my BUG, or my deep concealment gun.

Anyways various responses to outrageous claims.

I cannot understand the logic of a DA/SA action, if you like the long pull of the DA then use a DA only auto. The transition from DA to SA, in my opinion is distracting and time consuming as you need to slightly alter your grip when the change is made. To really shine some light on the subject, competive shooters (IPSIC and IDPA) perfer two types of actions, single (1911 ) and striker fired (Glock, M&P etc) over DA/SA types as they are faster and the trigger feel is the same from start to finish. I have owned and shot both and I prefer the striker fired for it's consistent action.

You don't need to move your hand to transition from one to the other. You only need to do that if you are trained improperly.

As far as USPSA, again incorrect for quite a while the CZ 75 SP-01 was dominating Production. Until Team Glock redoubled it's efforts to win production. It's the shooter not the gun, the DA/SA transition is only on the first shot.

The Sigs Da/sa trigger is obsolete. The Glocks trigger can be upgraded into an excellent trigger very easy.

The Glock draws faster, is lighter, and smoother. The Glock can be repaired cheaply and quickly. Its about as tuneable as an AR15. Every single part for it is out there.....the best part is none are needed if you want to go that route.

DA/SA triggers are far from obsolete, they are probably one of the more common triggers.

Draws faster, never heard about one compare draw times. Unless there is some magical fairy dust on the Glock, the draw times should be equal give the same holster, and shooters of similar skill levels.

Smoother, I would beg to differ, Sigs are very smooth when properly lubed, and so are Glocks.

As far as tuneabillity, there are replacement parts for Sigs, they are concentrated mostly around the competition communities. In my Sigs I have aftermarket grips and grip screws, after market sears, and safety levers, after market guide rod, after market firing pin block, after market springs, and after market sights. The only reason why there aren't more parts replaced is because I didn't deem the parts necessary.

You may not see the parts in cheaper than dirt, but the parts are out there.

I can make most Sigs fail just by getting them dirty. If you are good about maintaining the Sig and clean it after each shoot you won't have that problem.

Eh? I've shot 1,500 rounds of CCI Blazer Alminum (dirty dirty ammo) at a range that was recently constructed with dust blowing everywhere getting into everything, zero failures, and I never cleaned the gun, or the magazines.
 
Out of the few Sigs/Glocks I've tried I prefer the Sigs.

  • I've had a few malfunctions while using Glocks, but not a single one while firing a Sig.
  • The Sigs fit my hand better.
  • Glocks are DAO. I'm a fan of DA/SA triggers.
  • The Glock trigger safety eats into my finger.
  • Glocks are also a bit boxy (aesthetically) for my taste.
 
deALPH, Glocks and Sigs are just 2 brands of great firearms; both have their "fans" with good reason. What feels good/right in your hand is huge. As for reliablity, anyone that says either is unreliable is probably just malnourished. It was mentioned that this probably won't be your last purchase. Oh, how true that is. If looks matters (which being your first firearm it very well may), the Sig gets the nod. Most Sig owners take a moment after cleaning their firearms and admire it. Glock owners just throw theirs in the safe. As mentioned, if you plan on shooting lead or reloading lead, it is recommended that you not shoot lead through Glocks.

I own 2 Sigs: a P220 Compact and a P239/357sig. I love'em. I have purposely not cleaned them after several trips to the range so I know I can count on them. Never a hitch or glitch.

I have rented a Glock so I could "feel" it. It shot great. I did not particularly care for the grip angle, but I shot very well with it.

If $$ is a big consideration, you better go with the Glock.

Concerning the DA/SA: ask Plaxico if he still likes a Glock's trigger. :D

You will do well with either firearm. Good luck with your decision. Let us know...
 
Navy SEALs use Sigs so you should too, unless you hate SEALs!!!


JK, I have a Glock and a Sig, the Sig is smoother, higher quality, fits like a glove and racks like butter.

Glocks are definately more utilitarian, I sanded my frame a little and carry the G20 out in the woods a lot were it gets beat up, but I don't mind. Whereas I pamper my P226, even though it doesn't need it.
 
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