simple "glock like" pistols

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If you want plastic get the original a Glock. But you did not specify it have to be a polyframed pistol just one that all that need be done is pull the trigger. For all metal pistols I would get a SIG or a SIG DAK (double action only). the P226, P229 nd P239 are some of the best money can buy. SIG also makes a P250 polyframe and P2022 both are good, but if you want plastic get a Glock. I vote for SIG, if you pull the trigger on a loaded pistol it will go bang.
 
These days my recommendations are:

For 9mm -- Glock 19, M&P Full size, and HK P30 LEM.

For 40S&W -- M&P Full size, and HK P30 LEM.

For 45acp -- M&P and HK 45 or HK 45c both in LEM.

S&W has just reduced their prices so that has become my first recommendation for those who ask.

Regardless of what you buy, buy a quality weapon. You are lucky, today there are many to choose from. It wasn't always that way.

Good luck.

Fred
 
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S&W Sigma goes "BANG" everytime for me, with anything I feed it. Feels LOTS better than a Glock in hand, no safety, simple to strip. If you don't like the trigger, the M&P is smoother and lighter, same reliability. I haven't shot a SD40, but it's got the better trigger of the M&P, and the tritium night sights for just a little more than the Sigma, <$400.
 
Get a 3rd Generation Glock. I have both Glocks & M&P. You can't beat the Glock for simplicity and reliability. Even simpler than the M&P. I'm with Luis, I like the M&P trigger. I also agree with you, HKGuns. Apex has found a good market with the M&P group.

Dave
 
Glock, XD's,Sig P250, HK P2000/USP/P2000sk, FNP's, FN Five-SeveN, FN Forty-Nine is you can get your hand on one IMO did everything glock did an improved my only dislikes that removed that little trigger safety and made the strike have no connection at all to the pin making in safe and made it have second strike capability gotta knock it for its trigger a little bit though
 
"Reliability being key..."

Same rec's as chieftain with priority going to

1. HK any caliber and model you wish with LEM trigger
2. 9mm - Glock 17 or 19
3. .40 or .45 - M&P series.
 
Steyr M9A1--Great gun that few people know about. It compares very favorably to a glock IMHO. You can find all the stuff you need for it. RCS, my preference, makes holsters and mag pouches. Mags are easy to find for less than what I often see glock mags listed for. There are not a billion parts to jazz it up but it doesn't need them either.

Glock-- If I were only going to have one glock it would be a G19

S&W MP

XD/XDm

Kahr: K9, P9, CW9, etc

Walther

HKs: Personally I think there is nothing about them that justifies the extra money over some of the above.

The fact is there are a number of them. Any of them will likely serve you just fine. What people like often comes down to what to personal preferences and/or what they get a chance to experience.
 
Go ahead and laugh, but a Kel Tec p11 meets your requirements of simple, reliable and Glock-inspired.

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Put on the factory belt clip, pinky extension, and add a Hogue grip and you have a spiffy CCW gun that is real comfortable in your hand.

They go for $300 +/-. I've had one since 1998, and have carried it more frequently than some other "prestigious" guns I own.
 
If you are not opposed to a DA/SA trigger and want a plastic-framed striker-fired pistol, I would get a Walther P99 AS.

I think it is the best factory DA/SA trigger I have ever felt on a pistol, metal or plastic. The DA is long but smooth, and the SA is short, light, crisp, and has the shortest reset I have felt on a factory trigger. The trigger reset is about as long as a 1911, and it resets at the break point, which makes the pistol very easy to for me to shoot. After more than 4k rounds through mine, it only jammed once on a round that had no gun powder and stuck the bullet in the rifling. The pistol grip was designed by an Italian pistol grip designer that designs grips for pistols used in the Olympics, and it is one of the most comfortable grips on any pistol I have ever had my hands on. You should check one out.
 
The GLOCk is a great gun, but as a previous poster stated, " If the grip angle and size is good.." In owning the Glock 22 and the M&P compact 9 and 40, I can assure you..that you have to "FIT" the Glock. I have a generation 4 model 22, and I am slowly training myself to pull the groupings to the center of the target. At 7 yards, I am consistantly a inch low and 2 1/2 inches left on the target. I drifted the rear sights to the right a tad on the dovetail and am now hitting the centers out. But as I keep shooting, I find the groupings are slowly drifting to the right where they should be. The problem with the Glock grip is that even with the smallest grip..(with no additional backstraps), it is still quite large for most users. I don't have small hands or short fingers, but as you take your grip and squeeze off a round, your bottom three fingers that are on the grip tend to squeeze the grip when your'e pulling the trigger, forcing your aim to go left. It takes practice with the gun to get it dead on.
The M&P..just shoots straight! The grip is perfect for me. My suggestion is to go to a range where you can rent the guns for an hour and see for yourself. It would be better than buying something that you'll be dissatified with!
 
I must make a caveat for folks recommending the XDm9 pistol.

Unique to that model, the XDm9, (Not an XD or the XDm40/45) Springfield cannot or will not support the XDm9 pistol. You can not find magazine springs, Springfield has yet to offer them. From suppliers other than Springfield you must purchase a rebuild kit. Otherwise a very nice pistol.

Please if you think this is wrong, contact Springfield Armory, not me. If you find XDm9 magazine springs without a rebuild or follower kit, let me know.

Thank you.

Fred
 
Kahr PM or CW series as simple as you can get. Have a Glock, too. But you get that funky trigger/pivot/safety thing that never made sense to me. Love the Glock, but like the Kahr triggers much better for carry.

Might add also, if you like single action triggers, Glock is about as close as it gets in striker fired.
 
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If you really want a Glock trigger, you could get a Ruger SR9 or Walther P99 QA or PPQ.

But you would be better off getting a Walther P99 AS or FN FNX-9.
 
M&P =\= Sigma ... either you've been shooting a finely tuned Sigma or you haven't actually pulled the trigger on the M&P.

In comparison, Glock triggers are mushy and too heavy (although they can be fixed easily).


Oh and the triggers on my Steyrs are even better (but again I hesitate to recommend them only because of the lack of availability of accessories ... that and I prefer the Pre A-1 pistols which are even harder to find gear for)

What's the Pre A-1 pistol?

I want the S-A1.
 
I really like my Sigma 40. I also own a Glock 22, but I find myself shooting my Sigma more and more. The infamous trigger doesn't bother me since I've been shooting revolvers since I was a kid plus it just feels a lot better in my hand.

It's a surprisingly accurate gun from out of the box. I've only put 200 rounds through it so far, but who know, it might take the place of my Glock as the back up to my 870.

Great inexpensive, underrated gun, but I guess it's not for everyone.
 
Might add also, if you like single action triggers, Glock is about as close as it gets in striker fired.

The Glock is not a single action gun. The Springfield XD series is much closer to SA than the Glock, yet ironically the XD trigger isn't as crisp. Look up XD/XDM trigger kits on youtube to see how short and crisp the XD trigger can be made. Even stock, the XD is in a seperate class from the Glock (in IDPA) because of its different trigger mechanism.
 
The Glockwork/Zevtech race trigger connector makes the Glock trigger very close to SA. It's still weird striker fired. But different. Firm and short pull.

But you have to be careful and understand Glock operation to make sure it isn't "too much".

My favorite simple carry guns:
Glock 19,23
Kahr PM9, P9, K9, Mk9.
 
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