Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Bill M., May 5, 2021.
How the grip fits my hand and how that grip places my trigger finger on the trigger will determine if the muzzle snaps sideways in my hand during the trigger break. If I can get the grip and trigger reach to suit me better in double action, then my single action may suffer. The same thing can happen in reverse.
For instance, I currently have two grips for my S&W 66. One grip is a bit too large in circumference, and the other is a bit too small. For me, the large grip makes for better single action shooting and the smaller grip makes for better double action shooting. These grips give different trigger reach distances with the large grip allowing only the tip of my finger on the trigger.
That's comparing a DA/SA revolver being fired DA versus SA.
If you're talking a Single Action Only revolver (SAA clone), I've always had a bit of a harder time shooting those well compared to a DA/SA revolver. Part of that is plow handle grips don't fit in my hands well. The other (I believe) is the long hammer stroke of a single action gun (SAA clone) requires more concentration on the follow through on the shot. I get more muzzle drop with a SAO revolver when I'm not paying attention to the shot. I do better transitioning from a SAO revolver to a DA/SA revolver than I do going from DA/SA to a SAO revolver.
I see this on the range when I am teaching folks DA revolvers.
the focus is so much on the sights and trigger that it all just... happens...
OP, I personally shoot a lot of SA in my Model 10 and Security Six. I often find that if I get my self 'going' (increased heart rate, adrenaline, etc) it is easy to pull the gun by bottoming out hard on the trigger.
If I relax, stay calm, the groups tighten up well beyond my DA performance. The only thing to remember is to maintain a reasonable grip, just not so tight that my hand starts to shake. The grip isn't as tight as I'd usually have it in DA.
No magic as far as I can tell, really these are just shooting fundamentals, but it is really easy to out pace yourself even in SA mode!
The 3” SP101 is the best double action revolver I’ve got. It’s extremely accurate, has a great trigger, and just feels right. My GP100 is a 6” and also has a great trigger. My Redhawk is a work in progress, but will never be spectacular. Model 10-6 has a great trigger, but is a 4” with fixed sights,
My 45 Colt Blackhawk is another story. It has a self serviced trigger with 1 1/2 pound pull with an extremely crisp break. There’s no way a double action pull will ever equal a single action..
Great SA shooting is all about proper stance, breath control, proper grip, smooth slow trigger squeeze and sustained follow through.
Great DA shooting is all about proper stance, proper grip and smooth fast trigger squeeze.
My stance is different SA to DA, my trigger pull is different SA to DA, my grip is the same SA to DA.
I took my cowboy guns to the range and my accuracy was just awful.
What I figured out was I needed to choke up a bit on the SA grip and get my trigger finger up to the first joint to shoot my cowboy guns accurately. At least that is what seems to be working for me.
The only thing I can add to the already great advice given is, practice with a target that lets you see how you're changing your grip and/or pulling your shots. There are co-called "bullseye correction chart" targets out there that are pretty much useless for anything BUT learning how to correct single-action target shooting techniques. You may benefit from using one since your DA shooting is already better than your SA.
This is most of the story, in my opinion. It is easy to slap at a single action trigger whenever the sights drift across the bullseye, and it's easy to anticipate recoil and flinch as a result.
I would just about guarantee that the solution is to get a .22 which can be fired single action and then begin practicing on a piece of blank paper. Pay attention to nothing except sight alignment, with a hard focus on the front blade, and slowly adding pressure to the trigger while maintaining that sight picture. Once the "surprise break" with the sights aligned can be easily achieved then practice can begin with a printed target, and only after that has been mastered can the switch back to centerfire be made.
I have been at the game for decades but still bring a .22 and a few pieces of printer paper with me to nearly range outing.
Do you mean one of these targets ?
Hmmmm.... looks familiar but there's something wrong that I just can't put my trigger finger on.
Get a good firm grip
Point the gun at the target
Cock the hammer
Put your finger on the trigger
Align the sights with the target
Mentally accept that the gun will recoil
Being trigger press
Continue to mentally accept that the gun will recoil and that there will be a big boom and flash
Realize that it just happened and the gun just fired
Don't bother looking at the target, just do it all again
That was pretty much my memory also. The only exception I've ever seen in the Governor's Top 10 was a shooter who thumb cocked at 50 yards...he also shot one-hamded from the Sitting Position
It is all about focus and putting aside expectation. DA trigger practice should actually make your SA trigger press better; the process is the same, the only thing that changes is the distance that the trigger travels
In DA, your focus is on the sights and trying to hold them still whole pressing the trigger straight to the rear...you're staying in the process.
In SA, you know that the SA trigger in lighter and you're anticipating being able to snap off a shot when the sights are perfectly aligned with the target...that's a jerked trigger.
You've also learned that there is more travel when shooting DA and you're either used to staging the trigger or you're in a hurry to take up the trigger travel...which you don't need in SA
The only time I ever cock the hammer is if sighting in off of a rest.
Pretty good summation...My DA groups rival my SA ones on most of my Smith's...by rival, I mean they're 1/2" bigger at 15 yds...but with my J frames, (a .38, a .357, & a .22), with those damnable coil springs, I just don't get a clean pull through DA trigger pull. The "K"s and "N"'s are much better. YMMv Rod
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