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Single stage press?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Atroxus, Oct 30, 2009.

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  1. Atroxus

    Atroxus Member

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    I have been wanting to get into reloading but am on a fairly limited budget. Is there anyone out there that has recently upgraded from single stage, to a progressive press? If so would you be willling to sell your (working) used single stage press at a reasonable or low price to help a fella get into reloading?

    PS I am not worried about brand as long as it press that is in reasonably good working order, or that could be made into such order with small amount of work/parts.
     
  2. SteelyNirvana

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    Three words for you:
    Lee classic cast

    You can buy one new for around $80-$90, Lee has great customer service and the press is right on par (If not better) than the Rockchucker.
     
  3. jem375

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    I have to disagree with the above poster, the RCBS Rock Chucker is the best single stage there is, Period.... If you can find one used, buy it and forget the rest.
     
  4. ljnowell

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    Buy one of the lee kits that cost like 30 dollars. I have used that press for a long time and cranked out a lot of .45acp and 45 colt on it. Its till solid and works like new.
     
  5. psyop

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    What are you loading?
     
  6. Atroxus

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    If I can get the equipment I will be startin with 9mm luger, then possibly some .40 for a friend that has several guns in that caliber.


    My collection so far only consists of a Beretta FS92 for home/self defense, and a Sig Mosquito for cheap target practice.
     
  7. loadedround

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    Go with a RCBS or Redding press. Stay away from the Lee junk.
     
  8. psyop

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    LOL... I have presses from RCBS and Redding as well but I would still recommend the LCT for this application.

    Lee Turret Kit...can be used as a single stage press.
     
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  9. Deavis

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    Lee isn't junk. It is a product priced for a market that wants a value in price and is willing to accept a lower quality than other buyersmay be willing to accept. I've got a Lee Classic press sitting alongside my 1050s and 650s. The Lee may be poorly finished and the linkage feels like crap compared to the Dillons but it works 100% of the time without any issue. It is a great bullet puller that takes up little space on my bench. Cheap and easy way to get into reloading.
     
  10. rfwobbly

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    Atroxus -
    There are several ways to go. All start with reading and understanding what you are getting into. Reloading is fun, makes shooting inexpensive, and will enhance your knowledge of shooting immensely, however it is not for everyone and you should first try to understand what you're getting into. Get a book called the Lyman Reloading Manual which comes in paperback and hardcover. Start by reading the first several chapters. If you can digest all the concepts there, then you're good to go.

    40 and 9mm will share a great deal of primers, powders and basic concept, so it's a natural pairing that will complement each other. That will speed your learning and help you grow in the hobby. So that's a big plus.

    As far as equipment, you can go inexpensive new, discounted used, or mid-to-high end new. I like the used equipment route for a first time buyer becasue of all the items that usually get thrown in to "sweeten the deal". This hobby is like motorcycling in that you can spend all your money on the motorcycle, only to find out you need a helmet, gloves, special jacket, rain suit, tank bag, etc as required extras.

    In the same way, the press is just the beginning. Nothing's going to happen until you have a manual, empty brass, new primers, new powder, new bullets, scales, calipers, primer installer, a work bench, etc, etc. Some of these you may already have.

    So read the book and then put together a budget for the purchase. Then you'll know how much to spend on the missing pieces. THAT will properly guide you toward a press.
     
  11. Atroxus

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    Ya, I hear where you are coming from. And that is exactly why I am looking for used equipment. I got the idea from a buddy of mine in another state He got a really good deal on a used press and most of what he needed to start making .45 for his revolvers. I am hoping if I look enough I might find a similar deal. (I would really rather not pay full price for entry level equipment if I can possibly avoid it.) I have a basic understanding of how reloading works, and think I would find it an enjoyable hobby.(plus I am hoping to save money on ammo) But I still want to start as cheep as I can so that if after 6 months I decided I hate it I could resell the gear to some other up and coming reloader without taking a huge loss as I would if I bought all new gear. But if I enjoy it as much as I hope I can pass on the bargain entry level gear to another reloading newb cheep and use that money to help buy more advanced equipment when I have more available funds. :)
     
  12. Atroxus

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    Sounds like you have an "extra" single stage press?(Or do you use all 3 presses?) Any chance you would be willing to part with that Lee classic cheap? ;)
     
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    I have an RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme IV and I have all RCBS Dies. I ran into a problem where the expander button for .380ACP was too long, as certain case manufacturers have put an internal ridge inside the cases.

    I was going to grind it down myself, however, I sent RCBS an email and they are shipping a new part that will fit these oddball cases ABSOLUTELY FREE!

    I have always used "GREEN" and always will!

    RCBS ROCKS!


    I have no affiliation with the company nor do I with anyone who works there. I simply like QUALITY tools and detest using JUNK tools.

    I am not calling anyone else's equipment JUNK, as I have never used anything other than RCBS. I can tell you that RCBS IS NOT JUNK!

    You get what you pay for. If you want to reload for $39.95, get a Lee Loader set and have fun!
     
  14. husker

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    LEE 50th Anniversary kit for under $90.00 at Cabeles comes with
    breech lock O frame press
    safty prime & priming tool
    perfect powder measure with stand
    powder funnel,case trimmer,chamfer tool
    priming pocket cleaner.1 tube of case sizing lube
    safety powder scale
    breech lock quick change bushings

    this will pay for its self in know time. & any one who thinks it is junk is just a spoiled BRAT.
    500+22-250
    2500+5.56
    2000+ 45acp
    2000+ 40
    2000+ 9 mm
    yep its junk all right.LOL
     
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  15. SteelyNirvana

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    This is the Lee press that I mentioned:
    http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=317831

    Read the reviews on the press, 59 of them and not one that is less than 4 stars. This press will last you a lifetime. Someone mentioned the breech-lock press, it is not as stout as the Classic cast.
     
  16. husker

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    yes it does look a little thicker in the casting. than my O frame breach lock
     
  17. Atroxus

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    Well you sold me on the Lee anniversary special. I am ordering a bunch of other stuff too including ABCs of reloading through cabellas.(Its in "shopping cart" atm) I have no idea what powder to order though. Anyone suggest a good powder for loading 9mm luger?

    I ordered a bunch of winchester brass, and remington 115gr FMJ bullets, along with cci sm pistol primers. (The bullets and primers are on back order though) Oh also anyone know ballpark how many pounds powder would I need to load up 1000 rounds? (no hot loads) So I know how much powder to order.
     
  18. psyop

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    Buy Primers First

     
  19. Atroxus

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    Good idea, I took the back-ordered stuff off my order. Know anyplace that has primers by chance? Also is 162.99 a good deal for 1000 new winchester brass cases?
     
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    "I have to disagree with the above poster, the RCBS Rock Chucker is the best single stage there is, Period.... "

    Say Lee and those who bleed green leap out. I have and use an RC II but I'm not blind. The Lee Classic Cast (all steel, not cheaper, weaker cast iron) is the superior press, regardless of cost. And the Classic Cast is entirely made in the USA, not China. Anyone who thinks the RC is the definition of a quality, massive press simply hasn't used a Forster Co-Ax or a Redding Ultra Max. Or a Lee Classic Cast.

    But loading handgun ammo places little real stress on a press, anything out there will do quite nicely. Even one of the little Lee aluminum framed "Reloader" presses would be good enough, right? :D And, serously, unless someone loads tens of thousands of handgun rounds a year, the tiny "Reloader" press, which sells new for something like $30, will last a LOONG time! I have two sitting near my RC, one with a universal decapper and the other has a Lee Auto Prime 2. Love 'em.

    When I got my dial indicator and magnetic base some years back, one of the first things I did was measure my RC's top deflection under the pressure of FL sizing .30-06. It sprung some .003", not much but really more than I had expected.

    Then, just for fun, I repeated the test on both of the little "Reloader" presses with the same dies, same batch of cases. Wow, to my surprise, neither press moved the needle on the .001" reading dial enough to measure! And, no, I'm not saying they are stronger than my much bigger, cast iron RC, but within the limits of their strength they ARE more rigid than the RC! So, no one can truthfully say they, or their bigger red brothers, are "junk", can they?


    Nor that the RCBS "Partner" presses are junk either. Or...does that matter ???
     
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  21. husker

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    i have know idea if that is a good deal or not.
    i use hp-38
    & i pick up old brass i dont buy it.
    i am also new to reloading rifles
    hand gun ammo i have reloaded lots of it in the past. but am burned out shooting hand guns & have been reloading for my friends 22-250
    & have been loading for all 3 of my 5.56
     
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  22. RustyFN

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    Good post Ranger.

    Atroxus if you are only going to buy one pound of powder and 1,000 primers I would suggest buying them local it will end up being cheaper. Once you find a powder you like then go on-line and buy in bulk.

    One pound of powder is 7,000 grains. divide 7,000 by the charge weight to find out how many. For example if the charge is 5 grains you will be able to load 1,400 rounds. Lee equipment will load just as good ammo as any other brand press.
     
  23. Atroxus

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    Cool, thanks for the info everyone. Assuming I can find some primers, bullets and powder I should be up and crawling in about 2 weeks. :) I figure about a week for my shipment to arrive, and another week maybe less to read the ABCs of reloading.
     
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    Would you guys be willing to comment upon the quality of the Hornady presses? Thanks.
     
  25. hags

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    IMO, I would steer clear of anything Lee.

    A Forster single stage is about as good as you can get. RCBS, Redding, Hornady and Lyman are all top notch too.
    Some of the older, "vintage" single stage presses you can find are superior to what's made today.
     
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