SKS Thumbs up or down?

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I have a Soviet made one in pristine condition that is a bring back from Viet Nam. This SKS is one of the most accurate ones I have ever seen. Then there is my Chinese knock-off model: That gun will not fire 4" three shot group at 100 yards.
 
Buy one. If what you want is a fun, easy shooting, effective, minute-of-Nazi accurate, (first SKS rifles went into action against the Nazis at the end of the war), rugged and reliable rifle that is peasant proof, grab two. I paid $161 to have an unissued Yugo shipped to me, and never regretted it. Great rifle. I also reload that caliber, but not really for accuracy, but when the surplus was dried up, and I still wanted to shoot. I don't mind reloading 7.62x39mm, as I enjoy reloading every caliber I shoot. See if you can still locate unissued Yugos, not the "shooter" grade, as some of those have burnt out gas valves, (repairable with a paperclip), but the newest/rearsenalled as possible.
The Norincos are nice, but a little small and a lot higher priced, due to the import ban - the Yugo fits quite well.

I reload 7.62x39 for the exact same reasons, even though it seems odd to pay more to reload with all the work involved. Where do you find the x39 brass? I have bought a couple hundred (costly) from one or two places, but it's hard to find and it's expensive.

I'm toying with the idea of just buying expensive Winchester 7.62x39 at Walmart for about 50 cents each and then reloading those. 50 cents per to shoot them and get brass, vs 45 cents+ each to get unprimed brass. Finding some once-fired 7.62x39 brass for a reasonable price would be to die for.
 
armoredman said:
as some of those have burnt out gas valves, (repairable with a paperclip)

Care to elaborate? I've had a few issues with my gas tube. It was popping up every 3 or 4 rounds and not cycling the chamber. The lever to lock the tube down would also pop up at that point too.
 
Budgudy, you didn't mention if this is a first rifle, or another rifle. But since you're reloading, I'm guessing it's another rifle.

I have a couple Norincos that I like a great deal. But, if you do not have an AR already, I'd steer you down that road before the SKS. To trick out an SKS properly will add up pretty quickly and move you real close to the AR cost range.

But the bottom line is that you can get .223 range brass free and without much effort. 7.62x39 range brass is rare. If cost is an issue, an AR and reloading will rapidly prove less expensive than the SKS and 7.62x39. Reloaded .223 is less expensive per round than even cheap Russian 7.62 ammo, if you have to buy 7.62 brass to reload, the cost difference becomes significant, and since the SKS will fling your brass far and wide, you'll be spending much time digging through the grass.

This is the current deal to be had.

http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/?shop=1&cat=33&

I'd recommend the flattop and add your optic of choice a couple Pmags and you probably won't regret any of it.

Of course if you already are in the AR family, then this message is irrelevant.
 
Ya, an SKS really is a gun you want to keep stock. Sure, tear it down, clean it up, and refinish the stock really nice, but all the other stuff really jsut detracts from it.
 
Get it. Affordable with plenty of ammo and accurate for the carbine range. I have a Russian and a Yugo. I had a Chinese one with a scope from the previous owner (that was drilled improperly and actually fell off while shooting) as well as other add-on modifications like the flash suppressor and enormous butt-pad. They did nothing for me. I ended up consigning it and getting my Russian one and haven't regretted it since.
 
Lencac:
Hi. They're a wonderful utility firearm. If I had to limit myself to one rifle, I'd keep my Norinco. I was going to post that "SKS, thumbs up or down?" was a rhetorical question. Then I saw your post. Why so down on SKSs? I ask because I think you're the first person ever I've come across who's come down on them like that. No harshness intended, really, but why? Just curious.
 
Sounds cool to those who know nothing about firearms.

That's ME! That's ME!! I know so little about firearms I bought not one, but TWO SKS's. To be honest I've only fired maybe 100 rounds through one of them, and none through the other one, but that's more due to a lack of a place to shoot a rifle than anything else.

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Did anyone say to get one yet? Well in case they haven't, I'll say it. Get one. They're fun, and there is just something "cool" about a commie gun.
 
I bought a Norinco from another THR member last year. After I bubba'd the thing I began to refinish the original stock. I kinda like the original better but the T-6 is pretty functional.

Bubba'd with Tapco T-6 and Tech Sights TS200 sights. I have a Tapco 20 rounder for the T-6 but I find stripper clips to be alot easier to deal with. Stick with the original 10 round fixed magazine.

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Gotta keep the sights, they're great! My only gripe... the stock is too short.

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Thumbs up! I have a Yugo 59/66 that's fun to shoot. It's not a tack driver, but for self-defense purposes up to 100 yards it's OK. The cartridge is powerful for its intended range; more so than the .223. Ammo is cheap and the rifle is really reliable, now that it got a new gas valve.
 
Thumbs up on them.
first pic,my collection,
second pic, one I built for my dad.

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Thumbs Up / Damn Good Guns

I have two Yugos I bought from J+G Sales a few years ago. I bought one in "Excellent, Like New Condition" for $140 and one in "Very Good Condition" for around $100. Both are great guns. I did not modify them in any way and both are tack drivers at 50 yards. I can hit the 10 ring at 100 yards about 9 out of 10 shots all day long.

When I got them, I stripped them both down and gave them both a good cleaning. The one in excellent condition required little cleaning other than washing off a thin coat of cosmoline. I've put a few thousand rounds through it and it still shoots great. I just clean the bore after I go to the range most of the time and give it a good tear down and cleaning every 500 rounds or so.

The one that was in "Very Good Condition" had a bad gas valve and a bent front sight. It was also a little more beatup and looked like it had been dropped into a vat of cosmoline when I got it. It took a little more time to clean and I had to replace the gas valve and front sight but it is just as good a gun now as the "Excellent, Like New Condition" one. It doesn't look as nice but it shoots just as good.

I don't like all that bullcrap modification that many people do to surplus guns. I like to use a gun like it was made. The only thing I added to mine were a sling to each one.

I buy old C&R guns because I like what they are and the history behind them. Why put a plastic stock, a silly ass pistol grip, a scope and a bipod on such a nice old gun? If you want an AR-15 buy one. Don't ruin a great old C&R gun. You lose any collectors value when you Bubbafy these guns. They are apparently a good investment since I see they have doubled in price in the past 3 years.

I think you will see the one's in original condition continue to go up in price. The ones that have been Bubbafied will never be worth much. You actually lose value when you do all that crap to an old gun. I see the Bubbafied ones all the time at gun shows and you rarely see anyone except gang bangers and such even look at them. The table that has the original ones always has a line at it of good old gun collectors that love original guns.

It kills me to see people ruin a good old gun. Another one that burns my ass is when some idiot takes a beautiful old Cowboy gun like the Winchester Lever guns and put a sling and scope on it. They are too stupid to know that they just reduced the value of the gun by 60% or more.

If a person needs a scope on a cowboy gun or any gun with the ballistics of something such as the 7.62x39 then I think that person is a damn poor shot and maybe needs to practice more or take a few shooting lessons from an old timer that knows how to shoot. If you can't hit it with iron sights at 100 yards, chances are you can't hit it anyway and a scope, bipod and all that other tricked out junk ain't going to help.

End of rant. Back to the subject. Yes, the SKS is a great gun. Parts are easy to get. Ammo is cheap enough that reloading is not really worth it. If I were you I'd buy a couple. If you must, go ahead and Bubbafy one so you can see what a piece of junk it becomes first hand. It won't be worth what you paid for it in a year. Keep one of them original so you will have at least one left that is worth a damn a few years from now. The value on the original gun will double every 3 to 5 years.

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Joe
 
D94R, I remember seeing somebody had repaired a leaky gas valve with a bent piece of paper clip as an ersatz O ring seal where the valve mates to the tube. surplusrifleforums.com, maybe?
 
I have reloaded for mine, but the brass gets hammered during ejection, so case life is short.
 
assrot said:
bunch of rambling

Don't mistake your personal opinions for that of what everyone thinks.


It's also not very friendly to make hasty generalizations about all SKS's (or any rifle for that matter) that are modified as being 'bubbafied'. You seem to be worried about resale value. Not all of us buy a gun just to sell it again in a few years.
 
I have a Norinco with Aftermarket Folding stock (Factory stocks are midget sized) And the Tech Sights with target post. The Tapco 20 Round Mags function flawlessly. Fun, Accurate-ish enough. Cheap to own and feed.
 
I have two as stated before and one is a pristine unfired, unissued yugo with a blond stock. The other is a "Super Kung Fu Puma ULTI Tacticooool" Norinco with literaly every tapco part you can put on a SKS. I love it just the way it is, but somedays I like to see it in it's original condition. So I go to the "Closet O' Stuff" and pull out the original parts and 10 minutes later there she is in her original glory..... No big deal. Buy what you want, do to it what you want, just keep the original parts as they will help your price IF you decide to sell it down the road.
 
I understand the Yugo guns do not have chrome lined barrels.

Has anyone tried fire lapping the barrels to improve accuracy? Did it work?

Among the reloaders do any of you load lead bullets and use them?

Just pondering.

-Bob Hollingsworth
 
How accurate do you want to get the Yugo? I've never fire lapped it, or felt the need. Out to 200 yrds I can keep the 8 of 10 rounds within 3 MOA, the other 20% within tolerance of that as well. Either way, if shooting at the torso they'd be a kill shot.

Unless you're wanting to stack rounds at the target I'd see no need for lapping it. But you may have different views as to what you want to accomplish.

I've noticed, that the Yugo seems to foul the barrel faster than my Russian SKS, not sure if that's my fault or the barrels though. I fire dirty Wolf ammo, but I also enjoy shooting the Yugo exponentially more than the Russian.
 
Anteater1717, that is one sharp looking SKS. I'd buy another if I ran across one that looks like yours.

From what country of origin does it come? Did you refinish the bluing or stocks? Wanna sell it?

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