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Sks versus the m-1 grand

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by rebelz, May 26, 2006.

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The sks verus the M-1 grand

  1. SKS

    22 vote(s)
    15.6%
  2. M-1 Grand

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  1. rebelz

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    Okay let's think about this the sks fires the russian eculent to the american 30.06
    it is cheaper than the m-1 grand but not as accutate but is cheaper and works as a tshtf weapon but is less accurte and less powerful than the m-1 grand but so is life
     
  2. Devonai

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    Dude, it's called "decaf." Ask for it at your local grocer.
     
  3. kfranz

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  4. g56

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    SKS is 7.62x39, it's about equal in power to a 30-30, not nearly as powerful as the 30-06, the closest Russian caliber would be 7.62x54R. The M1 Garand is quite accurate, the SKS is barely adequate in accuracy at ranges less than 100 yds.

    Conclusion...the SKS is better than nothing.
     
  5. N3rday

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    On a semi-related topic, it DOES make me feel better to think of my SKS as a 'poor man's Garand'. It sounds a lot better than 'that gun I bought on the spur of the moment on my 18th birthday when I should have saved another $100 and gotten an AK'.
     
  6. ocabj

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    Okay. Let's think about this. The SKS fires the Russian equivalent to the American .30-06.

    It is cheaper than the M1 Garand, but not as accurate. It is cheaper and works as a SHTF weapon. It is less accurate and less powerful than the M1 Garand. But so is life.

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    Now my actual response to this trolling. The post is so contradictory to itself. The posts states that the 7.62x39 is the Russian equivalent to the .30-06, yet the post also states that the 7.62x39 is not as accurate or as powerful as the .30-06. So how is the 7.62x39 the Russian equivalent to the .30-06? This makes no sense.

    G56 is correct. If anything, the 7.62x54R is the Russian equivalent of the .30-06.
     
  7. grimjaw

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    I've got six SKSs, and I still voted Garand.

    jmm
     
  8. MTMilitiaman

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    The inaccuracies in cartridge descriptions have already been pointed out. The Garand is more powerful, more accurate, and despite this lacks only two rounds in standard capacity. It is probably faster to reload and about on par in terms of reliability and durability. Really, its only gives weight up to the SKS and in all reality, probably not even much there compared to my Yugo.

    That stated, my Yugo is accurate enough to go well beyond 100 yards. I can hit beer bottles at 200 so Joe American shouldn't be a problem at 300 or even 400.
     
  9. ABTOMAT

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    I don't think it's coffee he's been drinking.
     
  10. roscoe

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    Are we sure that the Garand actually is more accurate? What was the standard for WWII? I thought it was something like 4-6 MOA. I think our nostalgia clouds our eyes - especially when it comes to the Garand and 1911.

    With the Tech-Site peep site, the SKS is reasonably accurate. If you are carrying the rifle and ammo all day, and are not planning on engaging in serious firefights, there are good reasons why the SKS might be a better choice. My Norinco is very compact and handy, does not care what kind of ammo you feed it, requires no particular attention, and it hits the 9 ring easily at 100 yards. Am I facing down a German machine-gun squad with it? No, but otherwise, it is a pretty solid rifle.

    If the Garand was about 1.5 lbs lighter, shot the .276 Peterson, and had a 10-round magazine, it might be the perfect rifle. Then, of course, it would be an SKS.


    By the way, what is "eculent"?
     
  11. Limeyfellow

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    There were some early SKS' in 7.62x54r but there was some reliability problems with the round in the SKS design but as been said the 7.62x39 is no where close to the power of the 30-06. It was designed to be an intermediate round based on experience to engage targets up to 300 metres. If anything the Garand is overpowered and the round is a left over of old military thinking and so has far too much recoil even with its added weight.

    Its hard to compare a full sized semi automatic battle rifle of the M1 Garand to what is actually a carbine with the SKS built on a different methodology.
     
  12. ugaarguy

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    Rebelz, what exactly do you want to do with it? How much do you want to spend? Each rifle has qualities that make it better than the other in different roles. Get one of each :D
     
  13. slzy

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    the soviets built a few svt40s in 7.62x39. they had a pistol grip and curved magazine that show up again shortly.
     
  14. MTMilitiaman

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    True. But then, heft my Yugo and tell me it is a carbine.
     
  15. C-grunt

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    Garand vs. SKS....

    Thats like a Ferrari vs. my Saturn!!!:D
     
  16. Don't Tread On Me

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    M1 wins in every possible category except for cost/price.
     
  17. armoredman

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    M1 is a full blown battle rifle. SKS is a weird ba$**** child between a battle rifle, and an assault rifle; mostly the SKS is a peasants rifle,as they were designed for rough handling by inexperianced, untrained folks, in nasty places, IMHO.
    The M-1 was built by a rifleman, for riflemen.
    The SKS was built by a country whose two main advantages in war, at that time, was supply of cannon fodder, and ability to trade land for time. Oh, yeah, and General Winter.

    Of course, I say this, and I have two Yugos, and not one Garand - can't afford it! I have the Russian Springfield - the Mosin Nagant....the Russian equivilent to the Garand is the SVT38 and SVT40.
     
  18. dev_null

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    I've never heard of an M1 Grand. I would, however, take a Garand over an SKS any day of the week. :scrutiny:
     
  19. MechAg94

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    The M1 Garand is the better rifle. Better cartridge, better sights, better loading system. The SKS has a built in bayonet and is easier on recoil.

    On cost, if you compare apples to apples and look at new production cost, I doubt the costs would be that far apart assume the same outfit made both. Also, if the Yugoslavians were selling off their stock of M1's rather than the US Govt, they would likely be cheaper.


    A better comparrison might be M1 Carbine vs. the SKS. The SKS would still lose though.
     
  20. Pilot

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    Apples and Oranges. No vote.
     
  21. Deer Hunter

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    So am I the only one here who enjoys shooting the SKS over the M1?

    I'm biased, though. Killed my first white-tail with an SKS.
     
  22. Greek

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    I don't have a SKS so I can't be objective.
    I do have two Garand's. The Garand's are very well made rifles. Historically, something I would like to pass down to my children. My wife and I both competed in a CMP match with them and enjoyed the experience. They are quite accurate. The sights are pretty good and even I can see them and I'm 59 yrs old! I purchased both of mine from the CMP.
     
  23. alamo

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    :D

    I admire your wit ocabj
     
  24. Mikee Loxxer

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    :confused: The 7.62 X 39 is the Russian equivalent of the 30'06? Who told you that. 7.62 X39 is an intermediate cartridge whereas 30'06 is a full size cartridge. The Russian 30'06 is the 7.62X54R.

    Your question should really be either SKS versus M1 Carbine or M1 versus SVT. Also please define eculent.
     
  25. saltydog

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    Is this post for real?:confused:
     
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