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Slide won't budge on Colt 1911

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing and Repairs' started by Balrog, Apr 24, 2012.

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  1. Balrog

    Balrog Member

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    I have a Colt 1911 with about 150 rounds thru it. It has worked flawlessly. Last time I shot it, I did not have a chance to clean it immediately afterwards, and it has set in the safe for a couple of months. I took it out today. I can't get the slide to budge at all, not even a millimeter. The safety is completely off. I have no idea what the problem could be since it worked fine last time it was shot.

    Any ideas?
     
  2. e3mrk

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    There is not really a lot that can jam the Slide unless it is just full of Carbon and corrosion.
    Remove the Hand Grips and Magazine and soak it in P.B.Blaster over night and it should free it up.
     
  3. wow6599

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    I don't have an answer for ya, but I can tell you this ^ ain't it.

    No disrespect e3mrk, but carbon build-up wouldn't cause this.....especially after 150 rds. Someone will be around shortly to help you out.
     
  4. Balrog

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    A few more things...

    Gun is a series 80, 100 yrs of service roll marked Colt, so made in 2011. Its been to the range twice. 150 rounds at most. Not even broke in really.

    The slide won't budge at all. Not even a wiggle... its like its completely seized.

    Safety is completely disengaged.

    Hammer is still cockable. Trigger still drops the hammer. Thumb Safety engages and disengages with no problems.

    I always rack the slide a few times after I shoot a gun to verify it is unloaded before i transport it. I have no specific recollection of doing this for this gun, but assume I would have as it is my protocol. There was no problems racking the slide at last session.
     
  5. LCPor9mm

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    Stuck Slide

    First off, I don't know jack about your 1911 so keep that in mind. Secondly, I would never shoot any of my guns then put them away for MONTHS without cleaning!!! :cuss: Well ok maybe my HiPoint...but at least I run a Boresnake through it and spray it.
    Have you tried removing the barrel bushing?
     
  6. Balrog

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    I was recovering from cancer surgery for most of that time, and it seemed like a low priority.
     
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    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=549744

    We had another person with the same problem a long time ago. The fix is fairly straight forward if that is the same problem with yours. Good luck


    You can actually shoot the 1911 for a bit even after the eye loop is missed; not always just depends on the weapon. But when they lock up, they lock....
     
  8. LCPor9mm

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    Got it

    Good luck. Admonishment retracted. :banghead:
     
  9. 9mmepiphany

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    Hopefully someone like rcmodel shows up with an approved method of clearing it.

    The safest thing to do is take it to a gunsmith and pay them to free the slide

    Having said that, I'll add that I've never had it happen with a 1911, but I have had it happen before when shooting dirty ammo....

    I'M NOT RECOMMENDING THIS
    , but it is what I did...placed front of the slide, under the muzzle, on a table and drove the frame forward...it was a H&K P7. I've also seen folks fix the frame in a vice and drive the slide back with a mallet
     
  10. xXxplosive

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    Ouch................never........not my Series 70's.
     
  11. 9mmepiphany

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    I always seem to forget you have this option with a 1911.

    Sounds like a reasonable path.
    1. Depress the recoil spring plug
    2. Rotate the bushing
    3. Remove plug
    4. Rotate and remove bushing

    This should free up the forward pressure on the slide
     
  12. Fremmer

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    Yup that slide is stuck, so remove the bushing and the spring. You may have to tug/push a bit. :D
     
  13. 9mmepiphany

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    Much like the advice about not looking in the kitchen if you are going to eat at a restaurant, sometimes it is better not to know what happens in the back at a pistolsmith's shop.

    I still remember the flinch the first time I saw a pistol smith take a Q-tip and mallet to fix my S&W revolver
     
  14. Fremmer

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    That's sort of like watching the nurse take blood from your newborn's foot! It hurts just to watch.
     
  15. Skylerbone

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    One part of my reassembly proceedure is, after inserting the slide stop pin and while it's hanging free, is to give the barrel a tug forward. That will tell you if you captured the link.

    You may also need to apply downward pressure on the barrel hood since it cannot link down normally.
     
  16. Greg528iT

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    My first guess is, rode hard put away WET. Where do you live? Hot humid? Near saltwater? I know new gun should not rust, but a fitted slide will have bare steel. Recovering and all you may not have enough hand strength to really pull it. Take it to a gun smith, they should be able to remove the barrel bushing, and hopefully be able to apply just enough force to break the rust free.
     
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    I would put this in the gunsmith section. Someone has to know in there. I wouldn't worry, its likely to be something really simple. I hope you're doing well sir.
     
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    Not comparing my 1911 to a colt by any stretch of the imagination but mine used to get stuck pretty hard the first 200-300 rounds..... I would clean the snot out of it, and then rack the slide 1-2 gazillion times... now it works perfectly.

    As far as freeing it up... I break everything that gets stuck. So, if you think your like me... introduce yourself to your smith.

    You have gone through enough and deserve to get your gun done up right!

    And... yeah... RC will set you straight. Good luck!
     
  19. Balrog

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    can a mod move this to the gunsmithing area?
     
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    Dribble a little oil in the rails from the rear and stand the pistol muzzle down for a few minutes to let gravity do its thing.

    Cock the hammer. Hold the grip firmly and smack the muzzle with the palm of your hand 2-3 times while driving the frame forward with the other hand. It should break loose.

    If the gun is loaded, use a length of 2X4 for the smackin'. Wrap a towel around it it makes you feel better about smackin' it with a board...and leave the hammer down...and keep your finger off the trigger.
     
  21. 4v50 Gary

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    What 9mmepiphany suggested along with the oil suggested by 1911Tuner.

    BTW, a former coworker had jammed his Sig with a cleaning patch. I put it in a vise (with wood blocks to protect the finish) and placing a piece of wood against the front of the slide, whacked it with a mallet. That worked and he was a happy deputy. I wouldn't try that on a 1911 as 9mmepiphany's suggestion is much easier.
     
  22. Balrog

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    Should I remove the recoil spring, plug, and barrel bushing before doing that, Tuner?
     
  23. Sky

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    Yes
     
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    +1 on removing the recoil spring. First ensure the gun is unloaded by putting a dowel down the barrel. Then remove the spring and bushing. This should allow the barrel to move some and hopefully unjam it. If it still won't move, get a wood block and hammer and whack the slide rearward a couple of times. That will probably do the job. If not, it's really stuck, and it's going to take a trip to the gunsmith to get it free.

    There's probably at least a 95% chance that will fix it, and if it doesn't, even the gunsmith's options are going to be highly limited. Frankly, that's probably what the gunsmith will try in the first place. Simple tools and methods are always the best, when they work.
     
  25. Greg528iT

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    What Tuner said.. and or spraying the entire length of the slide hoping it seeps under and helps loosen things up.

    I've become cautious about who I tell to give something a little whack or tap. but yes a piece of 2x4 wrapped in a towel, try and line the edge of the 2x4 up so it rests just below the barrel where the spring cap and bushing are. A standard GI spring cap will move with the slide the barrel only a little bit. An alternative is to try the one handed reload cycling action often quoted here. Find a lower height table top. place a towel on the edge.. set the slide on the edge of the table so that the barrel hangs over, the GI plug hooks the table top.. lean into the gun with your body weight. MAKE SURE YOUR FINGER IS OFF THE TRIGGER AND YOUR TOES ARE NOT LINED UP WITH THE BARREL.
     
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