Slim pickings out there...

[Reloadron]

Depends on location. Here in GA I'm still finding decent deals on pistols. Check Armslist to see what they are going for around you.

I did, haven't looked there for years. Actually quite a few handguns to be had and many individual sellers. Here in the SE Cleveland, Ohio suburbs.

My friend owns a local gun shop and he normally has a pretty large inventory of stuff and they were picked clean. About time I visit them again to see what's new.

Ron

 

[GEM]

Let's not wander into politics. Deleting such.

 

[CDW4ME]

Apparently there are many with this philosophy:

 

[Trey Veston]

Wandered into a thread about the Beretta APX series of pistols. I had handled one last year in the LGS and really liked the feel and the trigger. The thread was very complimentary of them and I looked into the APX and found they made a mid-sized in .40 S&W. Very interesting. So I thought it would be nice to buy one.

One poster said that they were going for $299 online. Another said $329 and $350 was the norm. MSRP is $399.

I went on Gunbroker and only one was available with the "buy it now" option. Seller wanted $525. What?? I found another 6 available via auctions. I bid $355, thinking that was a fair price and not too much over normal market price.

I didn't win. The pistol sold for $445. Nearly $50 over MSRP for an unpopular pistol in an unpopular caliber. It is indeed slim pickings out there and now is not the time to buy ANY defensive pistol or firearm.

 

[Reloadron]

Wandered into a thread about the Beretta APX series of pistols. I had handled one last year in the LGS and really liked the feel and the trigger. The thread was very complimentary of them and I looked into the APX and found they made a mid-sized in .40 S&W. Very interesting. So I thought it would be nice to buy one.

One poster said that they were going for $299 online. Another said $329 and $350 was the norm. MSRP is $399.

I went on Gunbroker and only one was available with the "buy it now" option. Seller wanted $525. What?? I found another 6 available via auctions. I bid $355, thinking that was a fair price and not too much over normal market price.

I didn't win. The pistol sold for $445. Nearly $50 over MSRP for an unpopular pistol in an unpopular caliber. It is indeed slim pickings out there and now is not the time to buy ANY defensive pistol or firearm.

Not unusual during a buying frenzy. I have seen $400 guns going out at $600 or more. Do not look for any logic in it as it will only make your head hurt.

Ron

 

[FFGColorado]

Wandered into a thread about the Beretta APX series of pistols. I had handled one last year in the LGS and really liked the feel and the trigger. The thread was very complimentary of them and I looked into the APX and found they made a mid-sized in .40 S&W. Very interesting. So I thought it would be nice to buy one.

One poster said that they were going for $299 online. Another said $329 and $350 was the norm. MSRP is $399.

I went on Gunbroker and only one was available with the "buy it now" option. Seller wanted $525. What?? I found another 6 available via auctions. I bid $355, thinking that was a fair price and not too much over normal market price.

I didn't win. The pistol sold for $445. Nearly $50 over MSRP for an unpopular pistol in an unpopular caliber. It is indeed slim pickings out there and now is not the time to buy ANY defensive pistol or firearm.

I sold a $200 shotgun for $350..my son consigned a Glock 43 and a Beretta 92FS ..Glock 43 sold for $450 and Beretta for $600...

When I bought my wife a NewBeetle in 2000(still have it), I paid the sticker price..no bargaining, thanks. MSRP....

Supply and Demand.....

 

[tallpaul]

What really burns me is the way a number of sellers are price gouging on Gunbroker. There’s a dealer in Navarre, Florida that’s charging double the retail price for his stuff and the fools are buying it faster than you can blink. We’ve seen this kind of hysteria before. Nothing stays the same for ever. I’ve got a long memory. While I really have no serious needs any more, I do have a few items on my wish list of “ like to haves “. I frankly don’t care if this guy ended up with the last gun on the planet... I will NEVER buy a nickels worth of anything from this guy. Just my .02 cents but I can’t stand price gougers like this.

Gouging or market pricing? you do not have much of a clue how business works do ya... these items-most are notavailablefora dealer to just call and get more.. they donot know when and even if those items will be available again do they? they still have bills n expenses to pay in the times they can not resupply to sell and keep the cycle going- guess what- the utilities still want paid- the mortgage and tax man want paid .... the market dictates the prices- I have little sympathy forthose whohave not learnedfrom the last half a dozen or more of these "runs" on product... prices were low and supplies plentiful for the last couple of years... wait until youget sticker shock on food prices and where they are headed... will you boycott all your local food stores or do you expect them to sell for even less than they have to pay... ears of sweet corn are selling 7.00 a dozen here this year.... I wont be buying many if any but its not the guy I usually buy from issue ... alone. Be an adult- if you like the deal buy it- if ya dont pass by and regret not buying when they were cheaper etc...

 

[whatnickname]

Gouging or market pricing? you do not have much of a clue how business works do ya... these items-most are notavailablefora dealer to just call and get more.. they donot know when and even if those items will be available again do they? they still have bills n expenses to pay in the times they can not resupply to sell and keep the cycle going- guess what- the utilities still want paid- the mortgage and tax man want paid .... the market dictates the prices- I have little sympathy forthose whohave not learnedfrom the last half a dozen or more of these "runs" on product... prices were low and supplies plentiful for the last couple of years... wait until youget sticker shock on food prices and where they are headed... will you boycott all your local food stores or do you expect them to sell for even less than they have to pay... ears of sweet corn are selling 7.00 a dozen here this year.... I wont be buying many if any but its not the guy I usually buy from issue ... alone. Be an adult- if you like the deal buy it- if ya dont pass by and regret not buying when they were cheaper etc...[/QUOTE

You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine. That said I’ll be damned if I’m going to let you tell me what my opinion should be. You don’t like my opinion you have my permission to butt out.

 

[TomJ]

During one of the previous shortages my understanding is that one of the online vendors, and I won't mention their name in case I'm wrong, pulled AR's from their website, cancelled existing customer orders for them and put them back on their website at significantly higher prices. That is completely unethical, if not illegal. I also know of a LGS in our area that has no problem lying to and taking advantage of new buyers, which I also have a problem with. That is not the same as vendors putting products for sale on Gunbroker and letting customers bid for them. It wasn't that long ago that I paid $140 delivered for 1000 rounds of 9mm Tulammo. There's currently a case of it on Gunbroker with 8 bids so far for $246. There's still 21 hours left on that auction. That vendor is doing nothing wrong. He's offering a product for sale and adults are deciding what it's worth to them.

 

[EMT40SW]

What really burns me is the way a number of sellers are price gouging on Gunbroker. There’s a dealer in Navarre, Florida that’s charging double the retail price for his stuff and the fools are buying it faster than you can blink. We’ve seen this kind of hysteria before. Nothing stays the same for ever. I’ve got a long memory. While I really have no serious needs any more, I do have a few items on my wish list of “ like to haves “. I frankly don’t care if this guy ended up with the last gun on the planet... I will NEVER buy a nickels worth of anything from this guy. Just my .02 cents but I can’t stand price gougers like this.

I understand your frustration but price gouging plays an important role in a free market. If you had not prepared for the current events when prices were low then you are subject to market price fluctuation. I would pay $1500 for a Glock pistol to keep my family safe if I had limited choices. If one were to shop around deals are out there but scarce. I scored an FN 9mm with 3 hi cap mags & night sites for $450 new out the door. The above said help out your friends & neighbors who are becoming new gun owners. Remember we are ambassadors for the gun community, Behave accordingly.

 

[magyars4]

All about supply and demand. I may not like it, but I understand.
We are looking for a hottubs...and like many items out there due to the Corona virus. They have manufacturing issues. Wait time is counted in months..prices I suspect are showing the lack of supplies

 

[Ed Ames]

One of the interesting things about this year is how many structural weaknesses have been revealed. Really basic things.

One of the first signs that this was going to be a really strange year came in February when paper towel dispensers in public restrooms started running out. Why? There wasn’t a shortage of paper towels. The dispensers were being restocked just as often as before. It’s pretty simple: the entire system for refilling those towel dispensers, from factory production levels to the capacity of the dispensers and how often they were refilled, was based on a certain percentage of bathroom users being hand washers, and that percentage changed because more people started washing their hands.

The same thing happened with guns. I’ve personally had multiple conversations with folks who don’t actually like guns, but this year they realize that they have a reason to own one. Just yesterday a person I’ve argued with (in a friendly way) about guns for about a decade came to me and said, “so, yeah, given the news, I am now seeing the point of the 2nd amendment. I hear that tactical shotguns are a good choice, can you recommend one for me?” And I had to explain to her that she was months too late to actually find a decent tactical shotgun for sale online or in this part of the country, and that she should figure out what she could actually buy and be prepared to take what she can get.

That’s what we’re dealing with. A whole bunch of citizens realizing that something they thought was unimportant, isn’t, and starting to do what we’ve been doing all along...but the system, from manufacturing all the way down to the retail channels, is set up assuming that only 30-40 percent of the population owns guns and most of them never shoot.

That’s different than last time, when it was mostly existing gun owners who wanted to stock up on tacticool guns before laws changed to ban them.

 

[Phaedrus/69]

The key is to have a long memory. Those vendors that are going for the quick profit by jacking up the prices should be dealt with accordingly when market conditions stabilize.

 

[tallpaul]

whatnickname

Your quite the lil whiner aren't you... wonder what you did or do for a living that many of us may feel is overpaid or gouging ya post on a public forum we are all allowed to respond and your opinion? Heck ya can not even respond to a quote properly

ha I seee you are or were an insurance executive" ... Sure enough I and others feel the insurance industry rips many folk off every day! kinda like the pot calling the kettle black- only difference is most of us need insurance...

 

[whatnickname]

whatnickname

Your quite the lil whiner aren't you... wonder what you did or do for a living that many of us may feel is overpaid or gouging ya post on a public forum we are all allowed to respond and your opinion? Heck ya can not even respond to a quote properly

ha I seee you are or were an insurance executive" ... Sure enough I and others feel the insurance industry rips many folk off every day! kinda like the pot calling the kettle black- only difference is most of us need insurance...

Easy to see that your hat size and your IQ are the same number. Why don't you run along and go pester someone who gives a damn about your so call opinion.

 

[Ernie Bass]

I have actually traded off a number of shotguns for cash and ammo. Been thinning out the herd. I will end up Keeping one Beretta for Bird Hunting which I seldom do, A Mossberg 500 for defense and a Stoeger outback 20" for Deer/Turkey hunting. I handed down my Benilli Ultra light to my son and he will get a few more.

I do not even check any longer for 9mm and 380. Thankfully have saved up quite a bit over of the years and just waste of time to look any longer.

I woke early this AM and bought a 1,000 rds of CCI standard for around $32 for a brick of 500. Just checked a few hours ago and all gone.

 

[tallpaul]

Easy to see that your hat size and your IQ are the same number. Why don't you run along and go pester someone who gives a damn about your so call opinion.

Interesting... while my head is large my IQ test scores have always been above average... I would compare them with yours but I did nit save them... and likely would not make yours look imoressive at all... and if they did good for you! Dont have a good answer for the insurance industry "gouging" their customers do ya?

 

[Tallball]

Stopped by a pawn shop today. They had a well used Ruger Standard for $469.00! Prices on other handguns were as much as new. This is in Salem, Oregon. Last Friday a friend said she was told 1 week for the background check. Here we go through FICS which is run by the state police. She was told there were 3,800 people in front of her.

Howdy pardner. I'm an adopted Texan now, but I grew up in Portland and Eugene. My grandma lived in Salem.

$469 is outrageous! I won a Mark II for a $245 bid on Gunbroker a week or two ago.

 

[Tallball]

"I shot government M9s on my squadron's pistol team, but I used a PT99 as my private training pistol. I hate to say this given as much as I bash Taurus, but the PT99 was better. That may due, at least in part, to the M9s having been well used. (And my PT 99 was an early model.)"

I got lucky. I bought a brand-new PT99 in 1990 or so and I still have it. The trigger on my Beretta 96 is a little bit better, but I really like the adjustable sights and frame-mounted safety of the PT99.

TaurusPT99

• Tallball
• Sep 4, 2018

 

[a075923]

I recently sold a Colt Trooper Mark III 4inch and was surprised how much interest there was and how willing people were to throw money my way. Guess it depends what side of the shortage you're on.

 

[whatnickname]

Interesting... while my head is large my IQ test scores have always been above average... I would compare them with yours but I did nit save them... and likely would not make yours look imoressive at all... and if they did good for you! Dont have a good answer for the insurance industry "gouging" their customers do ya?

Your ignorance is showing again...not surprising

 

[tipoc]

Some of this discussion has devolved to small time insults.

 

[sarge83]

My local gun/pawn establishment was on the light side when I was in there a week or so ago. 1911's were still plentiful and there were a few revolvers about. No high capacity anything except for one lone AR in the AK caliber, but it had a bad extractor. Still it won't last long. Plenty of shotguns and hunting rifles. If I were looking for weapons for home or self-defense in this climate I would be getting a 1911 with several magazines and look for a nice Mossy 500 or Remington 870 with a 24 inch or shorter barrel or a nice 30'30 Marlin 1894 lever rifle. Aside from hunting rounds the ammo shelf was barren.

 

[Rockrivr1]

As a small time FFL the comments on Supply and Demand as well as continued bills to pay is spot on. If the going rate for a particular gun is now $600, when pre covid the cost was $400, why wouldn't I sell at $600? I'm in business TO make money. Not to leave money on the table. Like I said, I'm very small. This month I've sold 6 handguns at the going rates. The not so funny thing is that all the distributors are completely wiped out of stock. I cannot replenish anything and I don't see that changing in the near future. Gun and ammo manufacturers are working at peak capacity to replenish stock, but in today's buying frenzy it's like trying to use a shovel against the tide. My fellow FFLs are facing the same issue whether big or small. Only small trickles of inventory are making it in and are going right out the door. Prices are being posted accordingly. Again, supply and demand. You can call it what you will, but it's straight up economics. Sure, you can vote by not buying from a particular vendor anymore, as is your right, but I doubt it's going to change anyone's selling process.

Oh and might as well get buckled in. This will just get more acute as we get closer to the election in November. If you think prices are bad now, hang on to your hat!

 

[Ernie Bass]

In a month from now finding any ammo will be like looking in the sky and picking out which star will fall next. The elections will bring new Protest and Chaos in the attempt to shut down and disrupt candidates from speaking. What is even more frightening other Terrorist like Al Qaeda having been watching like Wolves salivating at the mouth for more weakness. To strike at the right time. The Virus has grown rapidly and a second wave should hit in the fall. More job layoff's are predicted. Since Police in many areas have been defunded, a vacuum of Criminals have swarmed in. More and more felons being released all the time into the streets. I believe you will see local gun shops having to close down. Most FFL's will most likely be done in a residential house etc.