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Small pistol for fiance

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by TL1234, Aug 2, 2007.

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  1. TL1234

    TL1234 Member

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    Hey, so first the good news. My fiance wants to take the concealed carry class with me. I'm just wondering what kind of gun I should get her. Here's some info that will hopefully give you all some ideas.

    The only guns she has shot were my Walther P99 (fullsize, 9mm) Kahr CW9 (9mm compact) and a SW 4506 (fullsize ,45)

    She said the one she liked shooting the most was the P99, and she didn't really enjoy the others at all. She still felt like the Walther was too "big" though. She has held a Walther P22 before and liked the feel of it size wise, but I don't want to get her one of those just because I've heard so many poor things about reliability (not to mention the caliber isn't good for anything but target shooting.)

    Given the fact she likes the size of the P22, and enjoyed shooting the P99, what would be a good choice? Mainly I want to get something she will have FUN shooting, and maybe be able to carry further down the road (I don't think she'll want to carry just yet.) Not too much recoil, easy to shoot.

    She is still really new to shooting, so I don't want to get anything that will scare her away! Any suggestions are welcome!
     
  2. slow944

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    Take her to the gun store of your choice and let "HER" pick out the gun she wants to buy. That way she'll practice with it and not be mad at you for buying her the wrong gun. Been there, done that.
     
  3. supraneurotoxin

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    don't they make a walther p99 compact?

    +1 to slow944-
    let her pick her own gun.
     
  4. fletcher

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    ^^ What he said.

    Also, encourage her to get something that she will carry.
     
  5. CWL

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    Don't rule out any of the smaller .38 revolvers either.
     
  6. 45shooter

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    Why not let her get the P-22?
    My wife has one and she shoots it a lot and never has any trouble.
    It is reliable and accurate enough out to 25 yards to have fun with.
    She should get a gun she will enjoy shooting so she will practice a lot.
    As for 22lr for self-defense its a lot better than what she carrys now (nothing) and you can teach her to empty the magazine at the target. Once she becomes more comfortable with pistols she can get something more powerful.

    BTW. my wife's carry gun is a Browning Hi-Power loaded with Federal 115gr JHP (9BP).
     
  7. TL1234

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    I understand the idea of letting her pick out her own. I just want to be able to help point her in the right direction.

    As for the P99 compact, I think she would dislike that for the same reason as my fullsize - too wide. I would look at the new PPS, but I'd prefer getting something that isn't so new, has a track record. Plus, I think the PPS would likely be as snappy as the Kahr I had her try, just because of the similar size and identical caliber.

    I have given some consideration to a .38 like the 642, which is obviously quite popular, but perhaps in all steel to suck up more recoil.

    Any more thoughts would be appreciated.
     
  8. 35Rem

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    Shoot NON +P ammo in the 642. She'd be more likely to carry the lighter gun. I know I would (am). I've got a 637 on the way.
     
  9. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    Did you try the P99 with one of the smaller backstraps installed? I don't know if it would make enough difference since it is still pretty thick, but might help.

    I would get her to try some other guns. Either find a range that will let you rent different models or borrow some from your buddies and let her experience a few models.

    By the way, you would be her fiance; she would be your fiancee. Unless you are marrying a man, then I suppose you would be the fiance to each other. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
     
  10. TL1234

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    Ha ha ha, wow, I feel kind of silly. Good to know. Fiancee is correct then, ha ha ha.
     
  11. Nitrogen

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    My wife shoots .45 ACP as well as .357 and .44mag.
    I shoot 9mm and .38. (She tends to outshoot me)

    Let her shoot what she wants :)
     
  12. tegemu

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    Both of youu check out www.corneredcat.com . All your issues will be addressed by an expert there.
     
  13. Chicken-Farmer

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    Sig P232 .380

    I own a blue Sig 232 in .380. The pistol is both a SA/DA and incorporates a decocking mechanism. It is a single stack holding 7 rounds. The pistol fits in the palm of my hand, but is large enough to enable a full grip. I have a Bianchi IWB holster for it and i don' know I'm carrying it most of the time. Very easy to control while shooting. It has fixed sights with a 3 white dot configuration. Sig quality is top notch in my opinion. They make the 232 in both blue and stainless. I have owned mine for 5 years and shows no wear on the bluing. I did purchase the hogue rubber grips. The grips originally were the plastic Sig grips that I'm not a huge fan of, but they were usable. The magazine is removed by pushing on a lever aft of the magazine well, same release as on a Ruger MKII pistol.

    Jeff
     
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    CZ is popular with the ladies. PO1 or the 2075 RAMI.
     
  15. 10-Ring

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    Let her pick her own gun...go rent a bunch & shoot them all and get the one that fits & works best in her hands ;)

    PS -- enjoy class!
     
  16. TL1234

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    Yeah, unfortunately there isn't a rental range around here, because that was my first thought.
     
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    The J frame .38's are difficult to shoot well, especially for novices. Their DA triggers are not user-friendly, and many shooters find their recoil unpleasant. They're the last guns I'd put into the hands of novices, particularly women. If she tries a revolver, a K frame makes the most sense.

    How about an S&W M&P Compact 9? They offer a choice of backstraps, and they're a lot easier to shoot well than a CW9.
     
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    I understand the idea of letting her pick out her own. I just want to be able to help point her in the right direction.


    To steer her in the right direction let her decide. Let her hold handle and shoot if possible other guns. My wife likes her 4" K frame and doesn't care what anyone remarks about "the little lady with the big gun". She is tiny.
     
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    I tried to start my wife off with a 38 snubbie. She hated it.

    I'm slow, but I'm not as stupid as some people think. Next I let her pick what she wanted. She piced a Bersa Firestorm 22. Ok, not the best, but better than nothing. Gun was fine, she learned to shoot with it, carried it for a couple of years, them decided she was ready for something else. No, I'm not recomending a 22 necessarly, I just wouldn't rule it out.

    Now she carries a Glock 19. (Good choice I think.)
     
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    Well my mother can handle a taurus .38 special and that was her first gun even has a nifty laser grip. However if she is not mechanicaly inclined get her a .22 revolver with a longer barrel since revolvers are great beginer guns you always know exactly whats going on.
     
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    Already mentioned; P99c. Maybe a Sig P232, a good choice for small hands.
     
  22. moxie

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    Check out the Ruger SP-101. Small enough to carry. Big enough to soak up recoil of .38 Special +P, and even .357 magnum later as she progresses. A revolver is easier for many to operate than an automatic and thus inspires more confidence. The 101 comes in several barrel lengths, but if she contemplates concealed carry at some point the 2 1/4 or 3 1/16 would be the better choices.

    See: http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAFam...ble Action&famlst=9&variation=Satin Stainless
     
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  23. 1911 guy

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    Guidance by instruction and parameters.

    First of all, show her how to check if a handgun fits her hand properly. If you don't know yourself, learn then teach her. Then set parameters based on her preferences and requirements. Revolver or autoloader, pocketgun (not recommended for beginners) or something a bit bigger, double action or single action (primarilt for autos) and minimum caliber (usually .380 or .32 if it's a wheelgun).

    In short, inform her to the extent that is useful for her right now. She'll learn more later, don't overwhelm her with stuff she doesn't need yet. Let her use that to make her choice.
     
  24. jakk280rem

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    why not a pp or ppk?
     
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