Smith & Wesson Sigma Series Trigger FIX!!! (SW9VE, SW40VE)

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you talking to me? I plan on buying one, I actually like the way they look. I am just so surprised that a thread from 2004 is still wondering around on here.
 
Pulling for S&W .40 VE

I just bought a .40 and here is a link to my first corny attempt at a video post on You Tube. It is about the .40 Smith & Wesson VE. I like the stiff trigger pull and feel more comfortable carrying a chambered round with no safety because of it. I have had two other Smiths, an 8" barreled Smith & Wesson Model 53 as a teenager that was extremely accurate and in 79 I bought a 459 that I liked almost as much as this 40VE. I hope this sways some to re-think re-doing the trigger spring to maintain that extra margin of safety.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yob9U35LwtY
 
I think it is good that the thread and the .40VE are still around. The dealer warned me about the pull before I bought it and allowed a dry fire. I had an HK VP70 Z once that was all double action and you just about needed a pair of pliers to pull that trigger after a few clips. The pull on this Smith is no way near as hard.
 
sw40ve

I have owned my 40 s&w for about a year now. I paid $300 for it and it came with a 10 and 14 round clip, a hard case and holster. I have shot alot of hand guns in this catagbory and I absolutly LOVE this gun. Granted the triggar pull is alittle harsh but I like that fact because me 5 year old cant pull it. I have noticed that it gives me a more acurate shot and when speed fired it will not and has never jammed on me like my baretta 9 did. Anyone who says that this gun is junk has never shot one as fa as I'm oncerned. Smith & Wesson hit the nail on the head with the sigma series. Just remember shoot hard, strait , and safe.
 
I too found this thread from a google search.

Hey jasonuscg Thanks so much for posting the link for the rebate program. I bought my new SW9VE on new years eve, The last day of the program. When I went to S&W website they were only advertising the new one from Jan 1st to April 30th.

This is my first gun and really the first time I have shot since leaving the navy a little over a year ago.

Took this thing to the range today to test this whole trigger pull thing and noticed nothing really hard about it. That was until i tried left handed. Stood there squeezing the trigger wondering if this thing will ever shoot. Only problem I had out of 100 rounds was a casing not getting shot out fast enough and jamming up. Though it was also the first round of the American eagle 115 grain FMJ. The winchester Ammo I bought at another store worked fine.
 
Sigma Trigger worked over

Hello all first post but did alot of searching and have the following about the Sigma trigger. I bought mine in December and the sales guy told me there was no fix for the way the trigger was and that I would have to live with it. well after a few hundred rounds I realized that the gun was a better shooter than me, and I was not anywhere near accurate with it as I am used to my CZ75 P01 and the trigger is single action after the first shot. So I looked around in google and found that you all recommended Tom Novak, I found the idea of paying for the trigger job a bit too much. So I called the company on the warranty card (LSG) and spoke with I think his name was Frank Smith and explained that the trigger was heavy and gritty. Well after a few minutes an email was sent to me with a shipping label and instructions and he reworked the trigger under warranty and without voiding any warranty and I have to say it is very very acceptable now. I am assuming as I have no gauge for measuring, that the pull is under 6 pounds, which is by far half what it used to be. So this was a thanks to all of you and a heads up for anyone else!
 
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Sigma fix

just got a reply back from S&W about the Sigma trigger pull.
they say that once you get adjusted to the trigger pull it will target just fine.
i questioned them about a lower front sight and they said it could cause targeting problems down the road whe the gun gets broken in and you get used to the trigger.
they also recommended not having the trigger worked on.
not exactly the answer i was looking for, but i guess it will have to do.
Maxwell4045
 
i just purchased my new .40 sigma and inspite of all the bad post and bad replies that i have read, i can tell all the bashers of the sigma are all full of crap. I'm sorry if you don't like what i post (this means you don't have to read it). i will not argue the fact that the trigger pull is a little much and i have read some that say its a safety feature. i have 4 kids and all i can say is that if I'm out of the bed its on me somewhere. when i go to bed its put in a secure location that no one know(except my wife that is). I will be contacting S&W concerning this issue because of the face that I carry this weapon as my primary weapon(CCW). i haven't put hundreds of rounds through my weapon, but i do intend to do very soon. i will post as soon as i get back from the range. thanks for this site.
 
The Sigma Saga Continues...

Wow, this has got to be one of the worlds longest single issue thread postings.

I have had my Sigma SW40F since 1995 and really like it. It has spent most of its time in the Blue Carrying Case and I seldom fill the 16 round mags due to weight issues. If you "can’t hit with eight, it may be to late". Since finally going for and getting my CCW last month here in AZ, I have started going to an indoor range on a weekly basis and have really gotten to know my Sigma. Its trigger pull finally got me looking for answers, so here I am with my two cents worth.

Even though I have cleaned it many times I never really examined the working, closely. Shame on me. I must say now I see why S & W may be so quick to fix trigger issues with no questions asked. Poor “Quality Control” has been what my Sigma has suffered from all these years and I didn’t use it enough to know it.

Here is what I found. First, the “Striker Safety Plunger” and “Safety Plunger Spring” were binding and rough in their action. When I removed them from the slide I found lots of small metal chips. The machined recess for the safety plunger was apparently never cleaned well prior to the slide assembly.

Second, the raised tab on the “Trigger Bar Assembly” was barely contacting the striker safety plunger, hence the plunger wanted to “bind” a bit before it finally got depressed during trigger pull. I re-aligned and polished the tab on the trigger bar that contacted the safety plunger for a smoother more positive action. Be careful here, because if you go to far you will create a bullet feed problem.

Thirdly, I polished the appropriate sear block and striker assembly surfaces and the feed ramp on the barrel. And lastly, I purchased a Wolf Standard Recoil Spring (17 Lb.), Steel Guide Rod and 4.75 Lb. Striker Spring to replace the stock striker spring from S & W and the plastic recoil spring assembly.

Well, it was worth all the effort. My SW40F is now a really great carry piece. Trigger pull is smooth, but still firm, which is what I like. For those of you with weak fingers who use the Sigma as your primary carry, and want a light trigger, get a different gun. Non-Standard Striker springs are for competition use only and should not be used in the Sigma for any other purpose. Don’t have to learn the hard way.
 
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not any more

I contacted Frank Smith at the smith and wesson warranty center and he told me do to online post that he will no longer do trigger work on the sigmas he gave me the number to S and W head quarters and they told me that they will not touch it a lot of it had to do with ship
ing cost even if u offer to pay shipping they will not work on it.
 
I contacted Frank Smith at the smith and wesson warranty center and he told me do to online post that he will no longer do trigger work on the sigmas he gave me the number to S and W head quarters and they told me that they will not touch it a lot of it had to do with ship
ing cost even if u offer to pay shipping they will not work on it.

Welllll, THAT REALLY sucks! I was just getting excited about sending my 9ve out to S&W for the fix.:(
 
I contacted Frank Smith at the smith and wesson warranty center and he told me do to online post that he will no longer do trigger work on the sigmas he gave me the number to S and W head quarters and they told me that they will not touch it a lot of it had to do with ship
ing cost even if u offer to pay shipping they will not work on it.

Just do it yourself.

The 3.5 pound striker spring is $3.50 from Wolf, the metal guide rod with 15 pound recoil spring is $30 from Wolf, the internals polishing can be done yourself with a piece of 10 cent sand paper. The entire job shouldn't take more than 15 minutes at the most and requires no complex tools, just a small, skinny, flat head screw driver.
 
I just go my Sigma 40VE today. Trigger pull isnt that bad. Pretty accurate too. waiting till the 15th of April to get the Crimson Trace lazer for it.
 
I must typ this rebuttal after sevaral phone calls back and forth with Mr.smith he did accept my 40VE for warranty work on doing trigger work.I have herd of to many problems with light strikes with the wolf 3.5 pound striker spring. And doing any mods on the gun your self I.e sanding or polishing your self will void the life time warranty. And this is my carry gun. Having the work done under warranty and documentation of so will remove any liability in a self defence situation. It took a lot of string pulling on Mr.Smith part to have the work done so I'm not sure how many more he will work on so all I can say is best of luck. And. Frank smith is a vary nice guy to deal with all I can say is call him and try but for me it wasent easy.
 
picked up a colt 1911 in Jan,my son hit some hard times in Feb so I bought his Glock 23 and today my son in law (also hitting hard times)needed 200 so I bought his SW40VE. At first I thought that I was just doing some in the family welfare but after searching the "net" I think I might hang on to this little sows ear/silk purse gem.I cant believe this thread started in 04.
I am going to start reloading soon and I have read about issues with the Glock concerning firing reloads through it,hope that this S&W fills the bill.....I can load new brass for the G23 and used for the SW.Anyhow wanted to keep the thread alive God Bless
 
I'll be picking up my Sigma 9 at the show in Fayetteville this weekend. Even after all the bad reviews about trigger pull I've STILL decided to go with this one for OC/CC. I use a Kel-Tec P3AT for CC right now and it's DA trigger isn't that bad. However, when I let my friends shoot it they go, "Egad, what a long trigger pull." Oh well, it's for up close and personal defense, IMHO, and will serve it's purpose well if ever needed. I can hit center of mass at 5 yards without taking aim down the sights (or lack thereof!).
 
Well, I picked it up on Saturday and spend some time at the range on Sunday. My shooting buddy brought 2 Glock 9s and a 45 for comparison. The Sigma targeted great right out of the box but the trigger pull was a bit more than I expected. I ran about 200 rounds through it and don't have any problems with that part of the equation. . .

I'm not crazy about modding the gun (changing/cutting springs) just yet so I'm going to do a fluff and buff on all of the components in question and see what happens.
 
Four days later and this is where I'm at. . . I did a half-fast polishing of the sear and related components and decided to do the spring mod and removed the outer spring and the pigtail spring. Once reassembled, the sear failed to reset Consistently!!!

I took it apart again and saw nothing wrong. I reassembled and it dry fired repeatedly? What??

To hell with that, I did a LOT more polishing on the sear and striker pieces and reinstalled the pig tail spring. WOW! What an improvement. I took it to the range and the release was a lot smoother and cleaner. It still has that long DA action that I'd expect but the drop off is very clean! I ran 155 and 124 mixed bag ammo through it and had no failures.

It DOES target quite well. I'm happy!
 
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I just got my gun back from Frank Smith and I don't feel any different than before I sent it out actually it's worse (***) not happy at all.
 
I called Frank Smith last week and he told me there was no more work being done on the triggers under warranty. he also told me to give it time to break in. I've only had it (SW9VE) for about 3 weeks and I've only shot 300 rounds. I am getting used to the trigger and getting better with accuracy.
Thanks for the thread guys
 
don't remove "pigtail" spring

so after reading many posts regarding removal of the "pigtail" spring, I did so and also highly polished all internals. Just to note, this "pigtail" spring has nothing at all to do with how hard the trigger pull is!!!! That spring is there to reset the sear when the gun gets cocked back from shooting a live round, and resets the next cycle. By removing that spring, if you were to hold down the trigger, the next round would not be cocked since that sping is not there to "KICK" back the sear for the next round.

Experiment: Cock the gun, pull back the slide, pull the trigger, hold the trigger down and recock the gun. Nothing will happen!!! It will not rearm itself. Why, because the sear has no spring to push it back!!!

All I did was highly polish all my metal on metal contacts, on the sear, the trigger arm and alittle on the slide itself. This substantially decreased the trigger pull!!!
 
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