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smith & wesson SW9VE(9mm) a dependable handgun?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by cajun47, Jan 27, 2007.

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  1. cajun47

    cajun47 member

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    i just bought one at the gun show for $338. came with 2 15 round mags and a extreme ops pocket knife!

    anyway i went shoot 2 mags(30 rounds) in the back yard just now. i had a malfunction for each mag! is this normal?? does the gun need to be broken in before its dependable or is this not a good model?

    the ammo used was "silver bear" made in russia. 115 grain bimetal fmj zinc plated case.

    the guy at the gun show called it a sigma or something? can't remember.
     
  2. Tezcatlipoca

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    Should be since it's a rip off of a glock.


    enough that there was a lawsuit.



    that didn't go smith's way.
     
  3. hagar

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    Get some decent ammo and repeat the test. Glock sued them because they made a better Glock. Mine (9mm, 40 & 357) will outshoot all my Glocks except maybe my G20, and my 357 VE will almost outshoot my 357 Sig 229.
     
  4. Glockfan.45

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    I have a SW40VE (second generation) and it has been reliable so far. I have put around 600 rounds through it with zero malfunctions. A lot of people will knock the Sigma that have owned the first generation. Its my understanding that the first gen Sigmas had their problems but the new ones are good guns. My only complaint is the heavy trigger which after you get used to it isnt so bad.

    Hagar you mean they make a barrel to convert the .40S&W to .357sig? Who makes it I would like one.
     
  5. FieroCDSP

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    I've had snags on the mags for my 40VE, but that was while hand-stripping before transport. always on the third to last round. Don't know why.
     
  6. thexrayboy

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    Own 3 sigmas, 1 first gen, 2 second. All are good guns, especially for the price. Nothing fancy, not super accurate but reliable. They will get the job done if you do your part.
     
  7. hoji

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    I owned a 1st gen Sigma. Fired 50 rounds striker assembly broke. Sent it to S&W, got it fixed and 100 rounds later, striker assembly broke. Repeat 2 more times:mad: Finally they told me that they put in the "improved" striker. I took it out to test fire, shot 50 rounds without malfunction, and sold the gun for 100 more than I paid for it {15 round .40 mags during the 94 magazine ban}

    I did not want to mess with it any more. A side note. WHEN it shot it was very accurate.
     
  8. RH822

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    I still carry my SW9VE on occasion. It has better than 1000 rounds through it without a hiccup.

    RH
     
  9. Hemicuda

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    Ok... field strip the thing, and clean ALL of the factory lube out of the thing... pay CLOSE attention to the rails and slide... where the frame and slide mate, and any other parts you can reach...

    re-lube with GOOD lube... like Break-Free CLP... not too heavy, but well lubed...

    Dissasemble and clean the mags too... (some of Smith's mags seem to come with internal goo pre-installed???)

    re-assemble, and load up with quality ammo and retry... I'll bet you that it is TOTALLY reliable...
     
  10. joneb

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    Did you buy it used or new? The one I shot was a 9mm, and it was reliable. What I did not like was the DAO trigger :barf:
     
  11. bpisler

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    I didn't have any problems with either one of
    the 9VE's i owned.4000rds thru the first one
    and 2500 thru the second,both triggers did
    lighten up slightly over time.
     
  12. Texshooter

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    VERY reliable.

    Some are too weak to handle the trigger pull, but it is a good weapon.
     
  13. cbsbyte

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    A friend of mine bought a SW40VE version last year he quickly traded it in for a slightly used S&W 1911. I did try it out once, and I can say I understand why he would trade it in for something better. Their seem to be nothing wrong with the realibity of the pistol, but it did have a heavy gritty trigger pull, and it was not very accurate even off a bench. It would make a very good gun for self defence where one would worry about taking a nice pistol, such as on the water, winter camping etc.
     
  14. rangerruck

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    1st gens had lots of probs. they corrected them, and even brought the price down for the 2nd gens on, and they turned out to be a much underrated pistol.
    don't feed it that steel case stuff, though, even if it is nickel plated.
     
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    I had a first generation version of this pistol and was very disappointed with the quality and performance, especially with hollow point ammo. Maybe the newer models are better but I would never buy one. I would spend the extra money have gotten a used Glock or XD before this one.

    Just my opinion
     
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    An acquantance of mine is a college campus police officer, and they issue S&W Sigmas in 9mm. He likes it.
     
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    Do some serches on SW9VE opinions you will learn alot.
     
  18. SouthpawShootr

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    Glockfan.45,

    The 357V was a factory offering in 357 Sig for one year (1998-1999). It was discontinued in Jan '99. Really was nothing more than a .40V with a .357 Sig barrel. I have one. Pretty neat gun. It was my first 357 Sig. Barrels from S&W to convert the 40s are long gone, but it seems to me I've seen them produced aftermarket as well. Maybe EFK Firedragon Barrels?

    If you'd like to see a picture, there's another thread on this board concerning 357 Sig guns. Somebody else posted a pic.

    OK, to the OP, I say what has already been said. Get some good old fashioned American made (or European) brass cased factory ammunition. Winchester USA, Remington's UMC, Federal's American Eagle are good stuff. Also, I've found Sellier & Bellot (S&B), a Czech product, to be good. Clean your gun. Try out the new stuff. You may or may not see a break-in period. If it's not reliable by 200 rounds, call S&W CS and see what they say. They stand behind these guns.

    No, Sigmas are not a better Glock. There are small differences, but it is, I'll admit, a pretty blatant copy. And I'm a fan of the Sigma. I find them (I have a 9VE as well) to be capable, trustworthy guns. By all means do a search. Many, many opinions are colored by a rather virulent dislike of S&W. Be careful to limit your consideration to opinions from those who have them not somebody whose friend's mother's cousin's son's best friend had a problem with the gun. Also, look around over at www.smith-wessonforum.com.

    The original versions of the Sigma seemed to have some teething pains, but the later enhanced or "E" revision largely addressed these problems. The hard trigger remains (more dictated by corporate lawyers than anthing else).

    Most importantly, enjoy your new gun and shoot it until you know it.
     
  19. fattsgalore

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    My personally question is what type of malfunction? When the slide locked back were where certain things located. Slide release; magazine's mouth; I'm not sure what you'd call the part of the slide the feeds the bullets, but that. Most guns can be diagnosed pretty easy. Fixing is a hole nother story.

    And the Sigma you bought was the new "Allied Forces" one with the black slide? I've taken a shining to that configuration. To bad about the crappy trigger.
     
  20. cajun47

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    alright i took my s&w 9mm and my old ruger 9mm(which i have over 100,000 rounds through it since 1992 with only one malfunction) to the shooting range this morning.

    first thing i did was load up the ruger with that russian ammo. it did jam quit a bit but maybe not as much as the s&w. then i ran 350 rounds of cheap reloads through my new s&w without any problems at all.

    the ammo is the problem. its russian, in a blue box with a bear on it. i posted the name earlier. do not buy that garbage.

    the s&w has more kick than the ruger but its quite accurate. its a keeper.

    is it alright to shoot +p+ 9mm ammo in the SW9VE? if so which brand is the best in your opinion.
     
  21. SouthpawShootr

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    Glad to see you resolved the problem.

    I don't use any of that Russian stuff except in Soviet-bloc surplus guns. By and large, they were designed for it.

    Of course, the gun is not rated for +P+ ammunition. No manufacturer rates their pistols for +P+ ammunition (I believe Kahr did at one time, but I can't find any reference to it in factory literature). I don't think you'll hurt it with limited use. As can be expected, +P and +P+ ammunition will cause accelerated wear over standard pressure stuff. The biggest problem is that no industry standard exists for +P+. One manufacturer could load it just short of proof-level pressures, while the next could load it just over the industry standard for +P. I have some Georgia Arms +P+ that I use for carry. I've shot 100 or so rounds through the gun and it works well.
     
  22. cajun47

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    SW9VE

    what does VE stand for? and who has the best prices for mags for this gun?
     
  23. sigma 40ve

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    I have had problems with the same ammo out of all of my 9mm's. I now call it Silver Bearsh#t ammo. I still have about 4 boxes left. Oh well, one day when I have the time I'll take it and one of my 9's to the range for a "jam" session to get rid of it.
     
  24. SouthpawShootr

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    The V stands for stainless (how they arrived at that is beyond me - I'm sure it makes sense.............to somebody).

    E stands for enhanced. Various changes to the frame (grip checkering, frame rail - which is proprietary BTW). I'm sure there are other improvements/changes.

    As far as mags go, keep an eye on www.cdnninvestments.com and www.gunbroker.com. Occasionally, I see them turn up at gunshows for decent prices. Only other alternative is S&W.

    Ah, but you can turn it into a practical training session. So that you can practice clearing and getting the gun back into action.
     
  25. darkknight

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    i have the 9ve and got it for 250 and never had a malfunction of any type plus it has suffered a small endurance test of over 500 rounds fired without cleaning and it was still very accurate. mines cali leagal so it only came with 10 rd magazines but its still a great weapon and i love it and im considering get the 40 cal version since its a discount glock and its fun to shoot.
     
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