SMLE flipperdoo on magazine?

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  1. heviarti

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    I've been ordering parts to finish my #4 Mk. 1 (T). A friend chipped in a magazine for it, however the mag is odd. It is a real one, not one of those squared off aftermarket turds that only feed the first three rounds.
    this mag has a rivet in the right side that nakes it too wide to pass the base of the the mag well. the rivet retains a flipperdoo ( that's a technical term) that could be some part of the feed lips or a cutoff. anyone seen the like before?
     
  2. Limeyfellow

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    Weird. The No1 and No4 or 5 rifle magazines shouldn't have a rivet.

    I have two possibilities that it could be of the top of my head...

    It could be an old MLE magazine or CLLE magazine from the turn of the 20th century. They where often had a rivet to hold a swivelling loop to chain the magazine to it's rifle, to avoid soldiers loosing them, and that afterwards it lost the swivel on it. That would be about the only Lee Enfield I know off that would have a rivet there on the magazine.

    I could also have been altered to make it legal in countries that limit to five rounds on a magazine.

    I could probably do better if I had a picture to see how it went. Very strange. I would actually just buy a new No4 magazine and fit that to the rifle.
     
  3. heviarti

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    if the forum and/or palmos were not broken, i'd post a pic. the rivet and greeblie are in the forward top right corner of the mag. Buy a new mag? nuh. I did that. the new mag is made of dookie and lose. it would feed the first three rounds, and then it was done. still sits at my mother's house in a kitchen drawer.
     
  4. paintballdude902

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    go to numrich and try to find an original replacement mag
     
  5. .45Guy

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    MLM magazine possibly?
     
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    Sorry your replacement doesn't work, I got a ProMag replacement for my No4Mk1* and it works great. Ditto on Numrich for originals. Good luck!
     
  7. DougW

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    Springfield Sporters have new surplus mags for around $25. The few I have ordered were brand new Savage or Fazakerly. You can request a used one too.
     
  8. Limeyfellow

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    Both Springfield Sporters and Numrich will sell you magazines.

    When putting in the new magazine, did you fiddle with the lips to ensure smooth feeding? Magazines were individually fitted to each rifle and really only removable for cleaning purposes. You can also occasionally get the feeding ramp bent out of place. I had that problem with my BSA No4mk1 Lee Enfield that would stop it feeding properly and a Savage magazine that worked great after the lips were straightened properly.
     
  9. heviarti

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    I fooled with the feed lips. it still sucked. I think this one I got will work, I'll just have to install the mag before the trigger guard. I can't install my trigger guard until I can get forward screw...which numrich is out of, and a trigger. (for some reason they sent two trigger pins, not trigger and trigger pin.)

    I'm mainly trying to figure out what this thing riveted to the magazine is for. it seems to move forward and back, and it's spring steel...
     
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    Pictures ???;) Worth a thousand words you know.
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  11. heviarti

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    pic posting broken under blazer and opera mini is also worth a thousand words- all of them four letter. If I could I would.
     
  12. lipadj46

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    Upload the pics to photobucket and then copy and paste in the image code they provide.
     
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    heviarti, sorry if I came across as flippant.:( I've not seen such as you describe & not being very technical :D I'm in the dark as to what a Flipperdoo does ;) The suggestion to use photobucket is a good one, I use it & it is simplicity itself. Create a photobucket account, upload your photos from your computer to this account, open a reply posting & cut & paste the IMG code from below your hosted photo into the reply message body, or click on the image icon above & cut & past the direct link code from photobucket into the image window. I'm busting to see what a Flipperdoo looks like.:)
    Steve
     
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    flipperdoo???

    We do not use the term "flipperdoo" on THR.

    We are a more refined sort, a more genteel upbringing.

    The proper term to use to describe this item would be "Hootis" or "Thingy".

    :neener::evil::evil::neener:
     
  15. heviarti

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    is 'Gesachstehagen' appropriate?

    I'll have a pic up later, and most will agree the first word is the best description.
     
  16. heviarti

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    Flipperdoo. right there... in the pic. top right corner of the mag.

    Photo_051709_001.jpg
     
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    Never seen any No. 4 mag with anything on the side. Flipperdoo's or otherwise. Something is screwy about that mag. It have one or two locking lugs on the back?
    "get forward screw..." A front trigger guard screw? Marstar, up here, has 'em. $4Cdn each. $3Cdn for the bushing.
     
  18. heviarti

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    cool. to quote Robin Williams, "What's a tenth of a dollar between friends?" so.. you got no clue either. hmm. I'll take another photo next I get up. just got u a few min ago, my cat was fighting a feral cat in the living room (?)...¿***?
     
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    "Flipperdoo", sure looks like a fair description, sorry, haven't the foggiest what it is or does. I wonder if its something to do with an adaptation of a LE mag to another action? :confused: Just guessing though.
    Steve
     
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    Some of the mags had on the bottom a lanyard hole for the chain also. I bought one for $9 35 years ago and just sold it for $50 bucks as they are hard to come by up here. Freind had another Mark 4 and the mag wouldn't even go in the well so there are a lot of different Enfeilds out there. Dosn't help they were made in several countrys also.
     
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    About the mag cutoff, I think that some Enfield models had them so that the troops would only be able to load single shots into them. It may have been the Springfield '03 that did this, but I can't remember exactly.
     
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    Never seen that before.
     
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    Loading it single shot with the magazine cutoff would get you a major beasting. According to the musketry regulations in paragraph 264 and 265.

    "264. Troops armed with rifles fitted with safety catches will invariably set the catch to safety before movement. The use of the cut-off is to be confined in their case to occasions when they are not actually engaged with the enemy, when it may be employed for the purpose either of charging the magazine without inserting a cartridge in the chamber, or to unload the rifle while retaining cartridges in the magazine. It is never to be used to enable the rifle to be used as a single loader, and is not to supersede the use of the safety catch.

    265. In the case of rifles which have no safety catches, the cut-off will be pressed in and the rifle unloaded on all occasions."

    Of course they never had the magazine cut off on a No4. The trial rifle No1 MkV that the No4 comes from however did have the cutoff, but as far as I know that never effected the magazine.

    I never seen a Lee Enfield magazine with that on it before. It makes me wonder if it been modified for a different release mechanism or fix some sort of damage to the lip on that side. It not one of the No1 standard magazine or a Lee Metford either. Not sure what it really is.
     
  25. heviarti

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    Another pic, from another angle:

    SMLEmag4.jpg
     
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