Snakes while hunting

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I am always impressed how large a mature Timber/Canebrake Rattler is (thick in the middle). They are a big, powerful snake. We have some in Deep East Texas where I live, but only in scattered pockets. But invariably, they are BIG snakes.

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It's generally stated as illegal unless there is a threat to people or livestock.

I believe it's generally covered under § 29.1-521. Unlawful to hunt, trap, possess, sell, or transport wild birds and wild animals except as permitted; exception; penalty.

I couldn't find it explicitly stated in a statute, however. But it's sure all over sources like news sites and the like.

Correct, its because they are listed as a Non-Game species. It is a misdemeanor to kill them (outside of certain conditions) punishable by up to a $1,000 fine and 6 months in jail.
 
Snake Road is crazy. A poisonous snake about every 100yrds or less. Definitely don’t walk along the side of the road! Also fairly covered in brown leaves. Creepy as hell but also exciting. Google Snake Road Southern Illinois. Awesome.
 
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I have killed a few water moccasins over the years when they were too close to the house or when they were getting aggressive toward me while fishing, or hiking.

I did spot one copperhead in someone's backyard by his shed. That snake got cut into multiple pieces by a 20 gauge loaded with number 6 shot. The property owner killed it because he had small grandkids that liked to play near the shed and he didn't want to take chances with a snake bite.

Son and I were riding ATV in back pasture, went to open gate and mocassin at fence post all coiled up. Went to house and grabbed pistol gripped 12 gauge and went back out. He was still there ready to strike. Threw gun up and as I pulled trigger remembered that gun had no stock, just pistol grip. Too late, pulled trigger and got a mouthful of pistol grip. Got snake, went home and immediately replaced pistol grip with OEM stock. Had a time at work next day explaining busted lips.
 
Son and I were riding ATV in back pasture, went to open gate and mocassin at fence post all coiled up. Went to house and grabbed pistol gripped 12 gauge and went back out. He was still there ready to strike. Threw gun up and as I pulled trigger remembered that gun had no stock, just pistol grip. Too late, pulled trigger and got a mouthful of pistol grip. Got snake, went home and immediately replaced pistol grip with OEM stock. Had a time at work next day explaining busted lips.

Heh!

Next time use a stick!

:p

Seriously...hope it was just split lips and no damage to the teeth!
 
When I was in Jr High, we went out opening day of dove season. The ranch we hunted was owned by a 76yo pig farmer. The ranch was 20 miles from town. The highway gate was 5 miles from his house. Big ranch!
We pull up to house and the rancher met us at the door. This guy was 6'4", 300#, wearing a 10 gallon hat, lime green plaid, pearl snap, western shirt, orange Bermuda shorts, and cowboy boots, with big cigar stuck in his in mouth.
" I knew you would be out, come on in and have some ice tea. "
We go in and his 73yo wife has made cookies and has the table set up for us.
He is telling us about the ranch, which windmill we want to set up at and his wife pipes in; " I would like to ask you boys not to shoot my jackrabbits. " He shakes his head and laughs, " den woman gets up at 4:30, every morning, walks to highway, to the mailbox and back. She talks to them dad blamed rabbits and the dumb sum bitches follow her! She gets back from her walk and cooks breakfast for me and 40 ranch hands, then wakes me up. EXCEPT FOR YESTERDAY! She is returning from her walk and passing behind my old truck (2yo 1 ton dually) and rattlesnake buzzes. She jumps back and lets go with both barrels. (she carries a Savage 311 20ga on her walks, to shoot rattlesnakes and coyotes). Only problem is, the rattlesnake is between the duals, which he had bought new tires last week and blows both of them out, which wakes him up too early. "
She hollers out, from the kitchen, " you old coot, don't care a flip if I get snake bit, just moaning and whining about the cost of your flipping tires. "
We decided it best to leave.

BTW, went to windmill and all 3 of us had our limit in an hour and seen at least 50 jackrabbits, that didn't run from us.
 
I'm somewhat surprised snakes are that common as far north as Idaho. I've spent a fair bit of time camping in Colorado and have been as far north as Yellowstone NP a couple of times. That far north you only get about 2 months each year where you really get warm weather. Even in July and August it can get pretty cool at night.
I just got back from a 3600 mile road trip through 6 states. I was amazed seeing "Watch for Rattlesnakes" signs in the Badlands of South Dakota and around Devil's Tower in Northeast Wyoming. BTW, The Black Hills have a lot of whitetails. I saw hundreds of them and only a few mulies.
 
^^^^
And here is a handy little tip I learned that is somewhat in the same vein.

IF dispatching a snake with a chainsaw (yeah I know), ALWAYS use the chain on the top of the bar so that it flings the snake AWAY from you and NOT the bottom of the bar because it drags the snake right up around your feet. :eek:


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And be careful with a weedeater. I tapped a copperhead with my weedeater and I have no idea where he went.
 
I have rabbit dogs and I run them all year long . One is running now and I just put up the puppies . We only have copperheads around here . I have had numerous dogs and a few puppies bitten , but none had to go to the Vets . Usually the next day they are running again with some swelling . If I had rattlesnakes I would not have dogs . They usually kill a dog when bitten .
Rick your in Ohio right? Athens had a rattler about 4-5ft long and baseball bat diameter run over last month.
 
I see them scouting more than hunting. By hunting season it's cold.
Fish is a different story. Water moccasins are everywhere.
 
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Wasn't hunting season, but spring calving season. I was riding old Cooter checking cows and calves, and he stepped off into this little mess.
He about turned himself inside getting out of there.
I told him, "buck all you want ol' hoss, I ain't comin' off today."
Best saddle bronc ride I ever made and nobody there to see it.
 
For the most part snakes are a non issue unless you step directly on them. I don’t know how many times in Arizona the cow pattie I was stepping over turned out to be a rattlesnake. The only time I felt I had to kill one (besides harvesting for hat bands or belt buckles) was when one appeared in the middle of a troop of brownie Girl Scouts.
Give them any alternative at all and they will let you go. If they give you their venom they can’t eat for a couple days. Lol
 
I was riding old Cooter checking cows and calves, and he stepped off into this little mess.

Wyoming I presume.

If so that shoots down my theory about venomous snakes being less of an issue in Northern states. In my travels to Colorado and Wyoming I've seen temperatures in the 20's and light snowfall during June and July. Once it gets that cold here in the Fall snakes are no longer out.
 
I don’t hunt but I do backwoods hiking here in PA. We have three venomous snakes here: Eastern timber rattlers, eastern and northern copperheads, and Massasaugas, a species of rattle snake. I have seen rattles snakes on hikes a few times, but always far enough away that a strike was not a danger. Massasaugas are an endangered species. I have never seen one. It’s the copperheads that I see. The adults are 2 or 3 feet. I carry a walking stick that is long enough to reach them without me being in striking range. If I come across on close I just use the stick to flip it. They moves away real fast then. They are likely to be near waterways for some reason and they like high grass, vine littered ground, and vegetation. All that makes them hard to see. Lots of people bitten in PA but few fatalities.

Now here is a snake repellent for those who want to keep snakes away from gardens and other places near the home. Snakes hate ammonia they won’t get near the stuff, so you soak rags in ammonia and put the rags in plastic bags that are left open. Put the bags wher you want to drive snakes off. It works
I saw a timber rattler while hunting with my Dad for grouse. Over 6 foot and big around as my Dad arm, he rattled at me but seemed to be in a stupor. Once we saw all of him we knew why. It looked like he had swallowed a woodchuck whole. It could hardly move so we left it be and went on about our hunt. Biggest rattler I have ever seen to this day.
 
Some of the few things to be thankful for in Southern New Jersey, generally few extremes in weather, little seismic activity and very little in the way of poisonous snakes, I grew up in the woods and to this day have never seen one. Thank God for small favors
 
Up NorthEast area here… We Have a Rattler that will really change your way of living if you have one in your house. No more Bucking Bronco rides with the lady and no more time for going shooting… Its A Crappy situation you will be in if you find one of these in your house…. Be cautious, They also tend to have others show up. Can be Scary to say the least. However after the first one, Not so bad. :)
 

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I've run across them a fair amount while hunting and hiking. And other times like this prairie rattler on the walk to my front door. They don't bother me much. I catch and release. Came real close to being bitten four or five times, but that's life right? This one tried to tag me when I caught him. Later released out in the desert.

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