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Sniper Log Book

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by steverjo, Oct 13, 2007.

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  1. steverjo

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    I am tossing around the idea of getting a sniper log book, but I am not sure if it would really help me or not. I am shooting a Tikka T3 Tactical, 24" barrel .308 caliber. Burris Xtreme Tactical 3-12x50mm scope. I usually do not check the tempurature, humidity or altitude when shooting. I use this rifle for target shooting, I have a .30-'06 for hunting and target. Any ideas? Should i get one? What would I record in it?
     
  2. possum

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    the tactical tailor log book is a good one. i don't worry about humidity and altitude much either as i am at the same range when i shoot it, if it was a question that could be found out real quick on line. but i do believe that it is important to right down, ammo used, grains, bulllet type, lot number, poi and poa in regards to the original zero if using different ammo than what you zeroed with. i also like to record group sizes and dates. and round count of course.
     
  3. Sunray

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    It won't be a 'sniper' anything. It'll just be a log book with the load data, distances, weather conditions('hot and humid' or 'cold and dry' is enough), number of rounds fired, etc. Serious target shooters do this all the time.
     
  4. possum

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    i can't believ that i left out range!
    i suck again!
     
  5. nwilliams

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    I agree....

    Be careful how you through around the term "sniper" I've heard all the anti's heads pop up at once and they begin snifing the air whenever civilians utter that word. Even on this forum I've seen a lot of people take flack for calling their guns "sniper rifles", "tactical" seems to be more politically correct apparently.


    Anyway, what you will have is a shooters log book, very common, I have one.
     
  6. xd45gaper

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    +1

    lol you are not a sniper, why would you need a "SNIPER" log book? now if you where a marine sniper and you had a log book whatever you will prolly need a "SNIPER" log book, but if you are just shooting targets you dont really need a "SNIPER" log book since you are not a SNIPER, you might want a LOG BOOK, but i see no use for a "SNIPER" log book.

    what would you put in a sniper log book btw?
    "Sniper log 103"
    Shoot at the target again today hit it 4 out of 5 times, wind 3mph @170 time of day 1336, temp 23c, range 100 yards, from bench....

    ive never understood why people think they have a "SNIPER" this or that unless you are police or military or a rogue villian shooting people you are not a freaking sniper give it up. whats wrong with the term bench rest shooter or target shooter????
     
  7. RLsnow

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    holy macarony, you guys are harsh!!

    but a log book is always good, i need to get one for my going to the gym :p
     
  8. MechAg94

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    Not so harsh. I get a little tired of the over-use of popular military terms. A long range shooter is not a sniper. A scoped rifle is not a sniper rifle. There is a whole lot more that goes into a military sniper.

    I don't care for tactical either. Anything non-traditional or with a synthetic stock is called tactical. It is overused. :)
     
  9. Clipper

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    'Sniper' and 'Tactical' are terms for wannabes. Go join up and become a real one. You're a marksman if you're a good shot with your target rifle that has an all-weather stock and/or finish...
     
  10. USSR

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    Guys,

    Take a pill. We knew what he meant and wanted. If you've got info to give him, then fine, but there's no sense in getting all bent out of shape over semantics.

    Don
     
  11. JW74

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    Why not call it a "range log" or range journal". That's what I call mine as that is exactly what it is for me.
     
  12. Tully M. Pick

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    Can someone answer his question, or not? I'd like to find a good log book, too.
     
  13. nwilliams

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    I have to agree, before this gets out of hand lets forgive the poor guy for using the word sniper and try to give him some solid advice.

    My apologies for nitpicking you sir....back to topic
     
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    Don't confuse a data book and a log book. A log book is used to keep track of the weapon's history, such as the number of rounds fired, weapon maintenance, etc.

    A data book is used to keep an accurate log of shooting conditions for future reference. It's used to track light conditions, wind conditions, temp, mirage, bullet impact, ammunition fired, shot values, etc. . In short, a data book contains all the information required to allow a rifleman to get a first-round hit in almost all conditions.

    Having a good data book requires that you put good data into it to begin with. The more meticulous you are, the better off you are in the long run.
     
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    did you see my reply? i answered as a matter of fact i was the first to respond, don't worry about the name calling bs i knew what you needed and there it is.
     
  16. steverjo

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    Possum, thanks for the info. The rest of you guys are worse than me. I "may" have misused a term (but that is how the books are advertised so i used the same term for clarity), but you guys have gone over the edge. Are all gun owners as snobby and unforgiving as you are? If so, maybe I should sell my firearms and start some other hobby.
     
  17. Sunray

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    "...like to find a good log book, too..." Office Depot or any office supply place will have lots of notebooks. Cheap. So will Walmart. Anything made specifically for shooting or any other hobby will be the same thing, but cost more.
    "...terms for wannabes...." The term 'tactical' is a marketing buzz word. The old one is 'Police'. We sold all kinds of Winchester Model 70A Police .308 rifles in the shop I worked in long ago. Not a bad rifle either. Black phosphated steel with an oil finished stock.
     
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    Thanks, possum. I didn't mean to ignore that, I was just wondering if there were other alternatives. I'll look into it and see if it's something I could use.
     
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    Well, basically you're talking about what we called a "shooter's diary" back when "tactical" was just another snake cult? No need to shell out. What you need is your basic small spiral notebook, and a pen. The trick is to always have it when you go to the range. (the notebook dosen't matter, it's your consistency in entering data) Probably it should live in your glove box.
    Back in my day, you'd enter something like "R-12 was checked out, pulled R-14, came 3 clicks right and 5 clicks up to bull, 180/200. Conditions: Rain of frogs, mild brimstone. Note: Hate this POS, want R-14 back. Come earlier next week."
    Logging performance and conditions is a good thing, but you don't need a tactical notebook. Whatever is on sale at CVS and pocket sized is going to be perfectly fine.
     
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    how about a notebook? You could write anything you want in there.
     
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    go buy a regular small notebook. go to a gun store and look at a Shooters log book. write down all the catagories that it has on the inside cover of the notebook. then you can write down the stuff in the same order on every page and not pay for an over priced notebook from the gun store.
     
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    I put everything on a note book while I'm at the range, when I get home all my data goes into an excel spread sheet where I can manipulate it there. doing it this way also makes it real easy to see what is going on and it's organized.
     
  24. cpttango30

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    I use a mead sprial note book. I have one for each rifle I shoot. I take it when I take that rifle. I note Bullet, bullet weight, powder and weight, case, primer, and speed if I am shooting over the chrony for every shot taken I will also note weather condition day and time I was shooting. I do not worry about writing down when how and what I do to clean my rifles.

    When I get home I then enter all the data collected into a MC Excel spread sheat that I made up to do the conversions of SD, Extream Spread, High speed, Low speed. Then I print that out and tape it to the page I used. I will also note group size for each different load fired.

    If you want a Sniper log book then by all means go and get one. If you want a log book tailored to what data you are going to enter then make them in MS Word. If you are cheap and want to spend more money on bullets and powder then by all means go with the 97 cent sprial note book like a few of us did.
     
  25. Will Learn

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    I use a spiral note book to record/calculate all the variables.
    Bullet BC:
    Bullet weight:
    Powder weight:
    Case:
    Primer:
    # of shots in group:
    Wind drift:
    Range:
    Altitude:
    Barrel length:
    Slope up/down:
    Coriolis effect(haha yeah right):

    Did I miss anything?
     
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