Sistema1927
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I just ordered a S&W 442 no lock to replace the 642 that I stupidly let go several years ago. My wife says that it is my birthday present AND Father's Day gift. Should be in my hands sometime this week.
Snub nose revolvers - .357 vs 38 special
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RealGun
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What model Rossi? I am interested in that round count of 6 in a J-frame holster.
theboyscout
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There are none in stock there, thanks for the help tho
Millamber457
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real gun , it's a rossi 4206 I think they refer to it as a 426, i may be dyslexic with my numbers ,but I trust it, it was inexpensive , and believe it or not it felt better than the charter arms I was contemplating
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Stationary Smell
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That would be a Rossi 462. I can't find any either...
RealGun
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How about 462? Not sure about the J-frame holster part. Definitely 6 rounds. This gun begs to be fed no more than 38 Special +p. It is about the same weight as a Ruger SP101 of comparable barrel length, so YMMV on what you want to shoot with it.
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Millamber457
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yeah thats the critter ! sorry my numbers always get messed up , and generally carry lower pressure 357 for sd and practice with 38 special . I don't care if a light weight snubby is rated for 357 , none of them like a steady diet of full power loads .
Varminterror
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@Shaq's comments on Taurus customer service do not match my experience. I had a run of Taurus Ultralight revolvers being brought into my shop in the early 2000's for seized firing pins or cylinders (hardened bushings were shattering), so I sent 5 of them back - Taurus replaced all of them, only cost to my customers was the shipping outbound. I did a revitalization on my mother-in-law's 85 a few years ago, even though it wasn't in their records as US imported, they offered a 70% discounted cost on a new replacement revolver (about $100 cost to me) - BUT - preferring to keep the existing revolver, I opted to try my hand at a new cylinder, and Taurus sent me all of the other parts I needed to rebuild the revolver, free of charge.
I had a PT111 Millenium which failed to feed - sent it back to them, it came back running fine, and THEN, when that model was recalled years later, they bought it back from me, after I'd had it for almost a decade...
I've also owned dozens of Taurus handguns - their PT92 and PT1911's, Trackers, Raging Bulls, all steel J-Frame clones, etc are all fine pistols. I've yet to purchase a Curve, but I do have a TCP which runs fine as well.
Other than their alloy Ultralight models and their problematic Millenium pistols, both of which have design issues, I've never had any quality issues whatsoever. I don't preferentially purchase Taurus most of the time, and don't ever recommend them over S&W or Ruger, but much of their reputation for poor quality is nothing more than BS propagated by internet "experts" who have never actually owned or even handled a Taurus firearm.
I had a PT111 Millenium which failed to feed - sent it back to them, it came back running fine, and THEN, when that model was recalled years later, they bought it back from me, after I'd had it for almost a decade...
I've also owned dozens of Taurus handguns - their PT92 and PT1911's, Trackers, Raging Bulls, all steel J-Frame clones, etc are all fine pistols. I've yet to purchase a Curve, but I do have a TCP which runs fine as well.
Other than their alloy Ultralight models and their problematic Millenium pistols, both of which have design issues, I've never had any quality issues whatsoever. I don't preferentially purchase Taurus most of the time, and don't ever recommend them over S&W or Ruger, but much of their reputation for poor quality is nothing more than BS propagated by internet "experts" who have never actually owned or even handled a Taurus firearm.
Thanks for the best laugh I've had in months. After listing numerous quality & reliability problems with their guns being brought into your shop, design issues, safety recalls, etc. you say "Taurus' reputation for poor quality is BS."
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Varminterror
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Thanks for the best laugh I've had in months. After listing numerous quality & reliability problems with their guns being brought into your shop, design issues, safety recalls, etc. you say "Taurus' reputation for poor quality is BS."
Yup - it's a gunsmith shop, everything that crosses my threshold needs an upgrade or repair. Nothing exclusive or disproportionately excessive for Taurus. I used to be one of the only local guys (if not THE only local guy) who would work on revolvers at all, so I got a ton of revolver work by word of mouth. Can't tell you how many S&W's and especially Rugers I had come in for work - that's what happens, sick cars go to mechanics, sick guns go to gunsmiths, that's how the world works.
If I had a gun repair shop, I'd like Taurus firearms, too.
If I had an auto repair business I'd like Ford Pintos & Chevrolet Vegas.
And if I were an MD, I'd like drug-addicted celebrities.
TheSpaceWanderer
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I carry a snub nose S&W model 60 most of the time. I carry .38 most around town and .357 in the woods.
You feel .357s in a snub nose gun. .38s are more pleasant for extended practice sessions.
You feel .357s in a snub nose gun. .38s are more pleasant for extended practice sessions.
RealGun
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I think your arguments are logically invalid and also do not reflect a sense of community. I have a musical instrument repair business and only find it satisfying to work on good equipment. If I just needed the money for the rest, I would hire an assistant to do those. Lots of times I counsel customers to avoid investing in extensive work because the underlying item is not worth it.
Millamber457
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i get a kick out of this , everyone knocks Taurus , and Rossi , I don't know how long Taurus has been around , But Rossi has been around a good long time , and has a decent reputation around the world . In fact I believe all their revolvers are still made by them , just because they are owned by Taurus , don't paint them with the same brush. All I do know is that folks are ranting and raving about how good the Rossi M92 is , after some tweaking to smooth out the action .
Ok Ok its not a ruger or a smith , but it's made decent, reliable , accurate , and yes damn it inexpensive.I don't have to worry about how much is gonna be out of my Pocket, , god forbid I have to use it,when they take it for evidence .Just like everything else , there is good and bad made by ALL the manufacturers.I got it at a great price , it holds 6 , and its real steel , not plastic . and I trust it to go bang every time
Ok Ok its not a ruger or a smith , but it's made decent, reliable , accurate , and yes damn it inexpensive.I don't have to worry about how much is gonna be out of my Pocket, , god forbid I have to use it,when they take it for evidence .Just like everything else , there is good and bad made by ALL the manufacturers.I got it at a great price , it holds 6 , and its real steel , not plastic . and I trust it to go bang every time
Jeb Stuart
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Man do I love my LCR9mm. Have become addicted to it. Ballistics close to the 357, less recoil, more availablity of ammo and just plain fun to shoot. Plus I have really taken to the Moon clips.
Here is a review which say's it better than my self.
http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/search?q=lcr+9mm
Here is a review which say's it better than my self.
http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/search?q=lcr+9mm
RealGun
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I could really go for that gun, except moon clip reloads are quite a lump to conceal. Carrying a reload is kind of the whole point. In the 38 pocket guns, I assume many carry no extra ammo, marginally able to conceal the gun alone.
TheSpaceWanderer
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True. I do not carry a reload. I tried out a speed loader years back but like you said it was bulky and a pain to conceal. So I stopped carrying it. I use to hold my carry rounds when I'm practicing/cleaning now.
If I lived in a different area and thought needing the extra protection was more realistic I would carry my SIG. The S&W M60 snub nose conceals oh so much better though.
Jeb Stuart
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Actually great to carry a reload. You can use a number of different products. Many use 357.Speed loader pouches. And go to Amazon and see many leather and nylon etc. I also carry in one moon clip in my pocket very easily.
Once again, check out this review-scroll down and look at the speed loader vs the moon clip holder. Also when I go out into the woods, I can pack a number of squeeze bottle with extra loaded moon clips. Heck after using moon clips, I never want to go back. I also like loading them up the night before a range trip. I can load up 40 at a time and my gosh they are cheap. I buy them from Amazon. And they sure are a lot less expensive than magazines and without the bulk.
http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/search?q=lcr+9mm
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dickydalton
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I slip my SP 101 and a reload into the same pocket. It's from Simply Rugged.
Sistema1927
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dickydalton,
Thanks. Just ordered one from Rob for the new 442.
I was assisting with a CCW class earlier today, and had a chance to try out the 442. Just as expected it prints to POA at 7 yards with 158 ammo.
Thanks. Just ordered one from Rob for the new 442.
I was assisting with a CCW class earlier today, and had a chance to try out the 442. Just as expected it prints to POA at 7 yards with 158 ammo.
Jeb Stuart
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My favorite 9mm for carry. *note the Bantam Grip on The LCR9mm Actually better grip than a number of I have used for control, and of course conceals much better-The bottom pick is a moon clip holder. So many was to carry, the only limit is your imagination.
I have a Rossi 38 snub nose that was given to me many years ago. FREE ! One of the best gun's I own. And I've owned most brands of revolvers big and small.
RealGun
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I use a speed strip too but use the little belt wallets that Dillon sells. Not very happy about the price though, so YMMV. The issue though is if the gun takes moon clips.
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