Discussion in 'Strategies, Tactics, and Training' started by JCooperfan1911, May 5, 2021.
Does anyone here carry a snub nose 5 shot as a primary weapon, not just as a backup gun?
2. This has been discussed into the dirt. Snubs and LCPs (and similar guns) are basically one opponent guns.
3. J frames are carried by many as primary due to dress circumstances and/or accepting that they take the risk of a one opponent, harder to shoot gun. Not the low crime mantra which is silly. Is a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado a high crime area?
4. Many who carry those smaller guns don't practice with them. Have you shot the gun in an intensive FOF training session or in a competition such as IDPA or USPSA (never seen the latter - folks do try in the former). Try that and make your evaluation. Shooting paper at the range at 7 yards is fine but not much of a test.
So, I know plenty of experts who will go out with J frame or smaller pocket auto but are well aware of its limitations, not the low crime silliness, and train with them.
As far as a "primary weapon" I carry it concealed and mostly one at a time (I have carried 2 J frames at once before).
I do not carry on my person now as I legally cannot where I live. Feel blessed that you can carry. Practice often with your J frame and practice with the ammo that you intend to carry.
Just as an aside. I carried a 442 with the factory boot grip. I carried standard velocity loads, not +P because of three things.
1. Quick follow up shots weren’t possible for me with +P
2. My gun was more accurate with standard velocity .38s
3. I was confident in hitting where I aimed and I was confident in doing it quickly and accurately.
The "What If" brigade will always provide commentary, and poo-poo any choice except a > 10 round 9mm polystriker.
In actuality, yes, the Aurora Century Theater is located in a high-crime area. The I-225 corridor has been problematic for decades. However, the theater shooting was accomplished by a single shooter, NOT an ex-spetsnaz team, and return fire from a snub could have proven instrumental on stopping the attack. The problem with the theater event, and our most recent grocery store shooting in my town, is that the perps picked ideal times to attack- when probabilities of an armed citizen were low.
If you put as much effort into the first three steps then I submit a snub revolver will do fine, if needed, in the last step.
I live in a small town that is fairly peaceful. Been 1 murder in town in the past 70 years, no gangs or gunfire on the streets
Charter 40 S&W , Charter 44spl , Taurus 856UL &
S&W 642 ... and LCRs in 327 & 357mag
Handy and dependable... Im very comfortable with my skills with revolvers...
Me. A SP101. (2 1/4" barrel)
Buy 2 snubs---shoot the snot out of one to become proficient with it and shoot the other one to "check it out" and become familiar with it and carry it.
The truth is that most of us will never have to draw a weapon, and if we do we will probably not fire a single shot. Having a handgun, any handgun, will put you miles ahead of the majority of people. Knowing how to handle that handgun, whatever it is, will keep you going forward.
Not to completely discount the thought that you might end up in a "Max Max" situation where nothing less than a belt-fed will save your bacon, but we need to live in the realm of probabilities due to the fact that nobody can plan for every possibility.
That is not the issue at all. It is meaningless.
The question is, should the firearm be needed, that number of rounds would provide sufficient protection for one's desired risk mitigation requirement.
I carry a S&W 66 quite often.
The Sp101 carries easier.
The 66 shoots easier.
If you shoot a couple of basic courses of fire, its not too hard to figure out. As soon as the difficulty of the drill, and/or the number of opponents increases, the favor of the 5 shot snubby decreases pretty quick.
I guess its what your comfort level is, carry and otherwise.
The number of rounds is only one aspect of whether the firearm will provide sufficient protection for one's desired risk mitigation requirement.
The Ruger LCR is a small framed revolver made in a variety of calibers.
The LCR is a proven gun that is easy to operate and can serve many people very well. I see no reason it wouldn’t serve the OP as a carry gun well, too. Like any 2” revolver a fair amount of practice is needed to become proficient, especially with performing ammo reloads, so plan on working a bit to gain a level of confidence in your ability to draw, operate and load the gun... especially if you’re under stress.
I’m limited by my office to having only two off duty or back up guns so I don’t have a small frame revolver in my carry rotation, but I shoot the ones I own to maintain proficiency anyway. (In fact I took a new-to-me restored 3” J frame S&W 36-1 to the range last Friday .)
Once one understands and accepts the limitations the 5-6 shot revolver has compared to a modern 10-12 shot subcompact semi (Hellcat, 365, Max9, Mossberg, Shield, etc) a 5 or 6 shot revolver is perfectly adequate for daily carry. Honetly, carrying almost any firearm is better than leaving a bigger or more capable gun in the console of your car because it’s too big or uncomfortable to tote.
If an LCR fits your want, wallet and waistline... I say go for it.
Yes, of course.
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