Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Reno380, Jul 11, 2017.
There are all kinds of folks at a public range, and if you go enough you'll see some crazy stuff eventually.
I won't go into details of all of the things I've seen, but in general, all one needs to do at a indoor range is look straight up from the firing line and scan about 10ft out to get an idea.
Yeah, some of these people scare me as well. I try only to go during the slowest parts of the week, but with so many retirees and "odd-hours" workers around here, it's hard to pick those times.
Went into a LGS and peeked through the (thankfully) bullet-proof glass to see one guy doing mag dumps of his plastic fantastic - ASAP. The red dot only hit the target once, when he started. After that, it was prangin' the metal target holder, straight to the berm, somewhere close to the floor, then the cable that held the target holder...
Drop mag, and repeat.
At another range, my son and I got "swept" by an over-zealous noob with her finger on the trigger, after she successfully hit the target.
As others have said, look up, and to the sides. IF you're lucky, the only holes are ABOVE your head!
I have also been on the receiving end of a over pompous range master. I had a jam on one of my pieces of work, cheap handguns, a stove pipe. I tilted the gun to one side, barrel still pointing down range, to shake out the round onto the floor. Range master grabbed me by the shoulder and said "You are out of here!" An open handed slug to his shoulder got him back and a statement of "Touch me again and I put you on your a**" let me finish my range therapy in peace.
Glad to see another Veteran here, I was being called to OEF but I was already discharged and Disability setup at James A. Haley, so no go for me, but I was ready to find my gateway back in. I salute you sir, or if you worked for a living parade rest!!! LOL! But allowing to twirl the handgun in store.....wow! is all I can say, guess he thought he was a cowboy in the wild west.
No we went to Shooters world today, we go to shoot straight (down from the fairgrounds at MLK and 301, I still call MLK Buffalo because it was named Buffalo Ave first, lol) sometimes too, usually when the wife is with us as she likes that one. I'm starting to think SW on Fowler Ave is the crazies place, 3 months ago last time I got out, someone came in with a concealed pistol 1 ak and 1 ar15, 2 other pistols, all loaded and chambered and could not figure out why he is being lectured then a arguement then ejected. Sometimes it is a comedy show, other times it is a horror show, but either way you can get hurt.
Old habits never seem to die, LOL, I have always called them clips instead of magazines, I did countless pushups and ran many miles carrying magazines over my head, eat,slept,showered, go to the latrine carrying 4, 2 in each hand for a week. One would think I would have that habit broken, the D.I.'s never broke me though. lol
What part of SouthEastern Fl you from? Ft Myers/ Largo?
You're thinking southwestern. I'm about an hour north of Palm Beach, in St. Lucie County, almost directly across from you. Grew up in Palm Beach County, but moved up here in 1991.
In the Academy we were slapped on the back of the head if we didn't use the right terminology of mags or magazines. LOL
No cease fire was called by the RM. I violated no safety rule, written or otherwise. I have run ranges and been range safety hundreds of times. I also had an easy 15 years on this range master. I wasn't going to take instruction from someone barely old enough to shave. I have no problem following instruction from a RO or RM when they have merit in their actions. The added cherry on top is this RM was arrested and charged for assault for doing the same thing to someone else.
It's amazing that no one ever used their weapon on him for self defense. I know there is no merit for it unless he actually was beating them to near death, but most go in there have their own ideas of how to properly handle and use their weapon. I even overheard some first time buyers looking for a good CC gun and want a big one, one guy started arguing with the sales that he will decide if the gun he picked is right for him to carry, the manager came over and calmed the man down and sold him his first cc gun, a .50 Judge........sigh
I agree. I think the RM over reacted and a civil conversation that pointed out that the gun was pointed down range, and I assume the trigger finger was off the trigger, would likely have helped the RM learn a lesson. However, I react very poorly when someone touches me without warning also. I get instantly angry. So while I think a verbal threat is a bad idea, I can understand why herrwalther reacted that way.
Personally, I don't warn people. If someone has done something that actually inspires me to physically repel them from my person, it will be a definitive and warranted response with no forewarning.
That is scary stuff. Unbelievably stupid.
This RO and I had butted heads before, but this was the last instance before I stopped going to the gun store of his former employment. He and I essentially did not get along from "hello." The store offers a military discount to use the range, so I used my ID to get around $20 taken off the range fees to fire a few guns, test some handloads, and get the wife to shoot her new carry. This RO saw the ID and asked
"Yes, Army Infantry. 6 years." (at the time)
"Well that don't mean sh*t here! I'm in charge!"
I could not tell who wanted to knock him out more, myself or my wife who is also an Army veteran. This was also the same gun store where the employees carried empty weapons and had a metal detector at the entrance.
Sounds like a real disrespectful D-bag. Like I said, someone grabbing me sets me off too, and a history of bad interactions probably made a reasonable conversation a difficult if not impossible outcome.
Am I the only one who finds your description of events very confusing?
What kind of rifle has a slide?
Assuming that you probably meant "bolt", or that their is some kind of rifle that actually has a slide, how is it that the buttstock didn't hit the floor before the "slide" did when he was hammering it against the concrete? What kind of rifle has a "slide" that extends further to the rear than the buttstock?
Pretty sure it was a handgun, he mentioned that near the end of the post.
I look at this two ways. This could have been a know it all idiot and in that case there is no saving him....he will end up in the papers or on youtube saying (I just f*^g shot myself).
it could have been a noob that just does not know better. There are so many new people coming into this "sport" and not all have had the chance to grow up with someone that knows safety.
If you ever have to teach basic safety you know that there are two people you don't want to train....first is your Wife...never try to "train" your wife...it will never work. The other is the know it all....this is usually identified by short cropped hair, a great many tattoos, and a "make my day" T-shirt. These people are not worth spending time on...they are totally unable to be trained for proper safety.....you wife can be trained in gun safety....just not by you....the know it all is hopeless.
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