Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

So? FN Now Makes a 28mm Handgun Now ..... yeah right

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by dc dalton, Feb 25, 2014.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. dc dalton

    dc dalton Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2013
    Messages:
    512
    Location:
    NE PA
    You have to love the stupidity of some reporters out there, but this one takes the cake:

    http://nypost.com/2014/02/25/knicks-raymond-felton-being-questioned-by-cops/
     
  2. JustinJ

    JustinJ Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2011
    Messages:
    4,046
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    I think it stupider to chastise a reporter for not being an expert on gun terminology, especially when writing about a relatively obscure caliber to non-firearms enthusiasts. Reporters have to write articles related to all matter of subjects and it is absurd to think errors will never happen.
     
  3. HoosierQ

    HoosierQ Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2008
    Messages:
    2,568
    Location:
    Central Indiana.
    I am not sure we can always hold these folks to as much knowledge as we have...frankly. I mean I know what an ICD-10 code or a HCSPCS code is and if you ever went to see a doctor or were in the hospital, they were important very to you...and your bill...but maybe you don't know what it is.

    The handgun in questions does fire a 5.7mm x 28mm round. Not the worst journalism mistake I've seen by far.
     
  4. NavyLCDR

    NavyLCDR member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2005
    Messages:
    7,691
    Location:
    Stanwood, WA
    So they didn't take the time to research what 5.7mm x 28mm actually means....
     
  5. vamo

    vamo Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    737
    Location:
    Missouri
    If not for that sentence I'm kinda just ok whatever someone was writing a story about a athlete's issues and didn't know much about guns. That sentence makes it sound like he was running around with a cannon.
     
  6. NavyLCDR

    NavyLCDR member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2005
    Messages:
    7,691
    Location:
    Stanwood, WA
  7. El Tejon

    El Tejon Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2002
    Messages:
    18,085
    Location:
    Lafayette, Indiana-the Ned Flanders neighbor to Il
  8. NavyLCDR

    NavyLCDR member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2005
    Messages:
    7,691
    Location:
    Stanwood, WA
  9. 316SS

    316SS Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2004
    Messages:
    591
    I typed "FN" into a popular internet search engine and the first result contained all the information necessary for the reported to have gotten this right. Knowing more about WHAT is being reported than the audience is THE JOB OF A REPORTER. Reporting incorrect information means they have failed at their job. If you want to chalk it up to "everybody makes mistakes," fine. But reporters botching gun-related information is a cliché for a reason, and that reason is not honest mistakes, IMHO.
     
  10. Arizona_Mike

    Arizona_Mike Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2013
    Messages:
    3,333
    You are missing the point. They called it "huge" and one of the largest handguns "ever made". They really do think it is a 28mm (and also think Felton had AP ammo which is very unlikely).

    Mike
     
  11. CLP

    CLP Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Messages:
    1,034
    Location:
    Alabama
    Good point. Researching the content of their articles is their job...
     
  12. Davek1977

    Davek1977 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2008
    Messages:
    2,539
    I bet is was actually a "28.5mm" ....you know, that gun that's only half the size of the FN "57" (5.7) LOL
     
  13. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2003
    Messages:
    48,717
    Location:
    0 hrs east of TN
    Good heavens, they linked to the FN website for the thing and they couldn't even get it right!!! Pathetic, but then the Post is pandering to the bird cage liner crowd anyway.
     
  14. BigBore44

    BigBore44 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2013
    Messages:
    1,756
    Location:
    Oklahoma
    While reporters aren't really that bright, you can obviously tell this was written for shock effect which is commonplace nowadays. Shock is what sells. Not the truth. Any article/statement can be recanted, but the impact of the fallacy is what they are really after.
     
  15. HoosierQ

    HoosierQ Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2008
    Messages:
    2,568
    Location:
    Central Indiana.
    I will certainly stipulate to that. Journalism done very poorly.
     
  16. NavyLCDR

    NavyLCDR member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2005
    Messages:
    7,691
    Location:
    Stanwood, WA
    Or intentionally for anti-gun shock value.
     
  17. Kiln

    Kiln Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2011
    Messages:
    2,465
    Seriously, try running a Google search before writing a report that thousands of people are going to see. Idiotic liberal writers that think everything is an AK47, AR15, or the most powerful high capacity handgun ever invented are among the most annoying people I've ever seen.
     
  18. Outlaw Man

    Outlaw Man Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2007
    Messages:
    1,870
    Location:
    Cleaning my guns.
    You think that one's bad? Check out this gem!

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/raymond-felton-knick-point-guard-charged-weapons-possession-article-1.1700808

    I agree, just some basic research is in order. I don't expect them to accurately quote muzzle velocities and kinetic energy figures. But, either get it right or leave it out. There are hundreds of subject matter experts that would gladly give their time and skills, at no cost, to help.
     
  19. JustinJ

    JustinJ Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2011
    Messages:
    4,046
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Articles are reviewed and edited multiple times before a final draft is finalized for print. It seems highly likely that somewhere along the way somebody thought that "five-seven 5.7" was redundant and dropped the numerals. Not a hard mistake to make for one not familiar with guns and this specific model.
     
  20. Skribs

    Skribs Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2010
    Messages:
    5,807
    Location:
    Lakewood, Washington
    Saying 28mm, when most people know that 9mm is the "standard", implies to the layman that the gun is 3x as big as is "standard." It's just like saying you can mag dump a 30 round mag from a semi auto in half a second. It is incorrect information that makes the gun seem more powerful than it is, making it look scarier and even more unnecessary for your average citizen to own (from the perspective of the "LE/military only" crowd).

    That's why we get upset when reporters are "wrong." In some cases it's sloppy reporting. In others, it's intentional sensationalism to demonize guns.
     
  21. herrwalther

    herrwalther Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2013
    Messages:
    3,501
    They seem to have fixed it now:

    Until I read:

    :cuss:
     
  22. jrmiddleton425

    jrmiddleton425 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2011
    Messages:
    307
    The difference between a "clip" and a "magazine" is whether or not you care what anyone calls it.
     
  23. Justin

    Justin Moderator Emeritus

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2002
    Messages:
    19,285
    Location:
    THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL
    The problem is that reporters screw up even basic concepts and terms related to guns on such a consistent and regular basis that it really demonstrates a cultural and endemic lack of willingness to engage with the subject matter in any sort of meaningful or informative fashion.

    If they can't get the basics right, why should I trust them?
     
  24. rbernie
    • Contributing Member

    rbernie Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2004
    Messages:
    20,681
    Location:
    Norra Texas
    How can a reporter claim to represent the truth or reality in any way when they demonstrate ZERO effort to determine what it is?
     
  25. Grassman

    Grassman Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2008
    Messages:
    1,778
    Location:
    Texas
    It's been that way for a while now. Journalism is dead in America.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page