So, what do you think about your M&P?
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HoosierQ
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I think he's talking about the DAO thing. I do agree, it is not a DAO...I think they are fully cocked or nearly so.
Ed Ames
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We care when we are being lied to.
Everyone knows that the M&P is a striker fired gun with a DAO style trigger. No lie.
Anna's Dad
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Absolutely love it. I'd rate it favorably to my (much) more expensive H&K USP 9. And S&W doesn't think I suck nor do they hate me. 
jigglyjames29
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I want one, but the extraction/ejection issues have scared me away.
Whenever this occurs, people just tell you to send it back to S&W. I hate having to send a gun back to the manufacturer. I've also read on the M&P forum that a lot of the guns that get sent in still have the same issues when returned.
Whenever this occurs, people just tell you to send it back to S&W. I hate having to send a gun back to the manufacturer. I've also read on the M&P forum that a lot of the guns that get sent in still have the same issues when returned.
EOD Guy in VA
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I'm more interested in performance than terminology. The M&P’s I have perform 100% and are extremely accurate. In fact my 40c replaced my SIG P239-DAK as my primary carry pistol and that's something I never thought would happen. I also have a full-size 40 and a 9c... and very soon I'll have a full-size 9. I even picked up one of the M&P 360 Chief's Special snub noses... a fine little revolver. While other manufactures seem to be on a downward spiral, S&W seems to be getting steadily better.
PS: I believe the extraction/ejection issues were only with the very early production pistols. I know of no one who has recently purchased one that has had any of those issues.
PS: I believe the extraction/ejection issues were only with the very early production pistols. I know of no one who has recently purchased one that has had any of those issues.
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M&P .40c was my first ever semi-auto purchase, and what a great choice it was. The only thing I have added is a set of CTC laser grips. Since I purchased it, I have had the opportunity to shoot Beretta, Kimber, Bersa, Taurus, and several other semi-auto's. I have yet to shoot another semi-auto that offered any significant advantage in feel, accuracy, or reliability. I'm not saying there are no nicer guns out there, just stating that the M&P is a great gun.
Hungry Seagull
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600+ rounds fired and all ejected properly without failure so far.
And they eject with authority over the shooter's right shoulder.
And they eject with authority over the shooter's right shoulder.
jigglyjames29
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On about half the M&P videos I've seen, the casings were ejected very weakly. Of course, there are a ton of M&Ps that function and eject perfectly, but it still seems to be a fairly common problem. Maybe a design issue?
MythBuster
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What am I talking about?
The M&P is a SINGLE ACTION pistol. There is no way on Earth it can be classified as a DAO.
That is what I am talking about.
Anyone that owns one can see that the trigger pull does a single action. It releases an already fully cocked striker.
Anyone that says that it is a DAO is a LIAR or an idiot.
The M&P is a SINGLE ACTION pistol. There is no way on Earth it can be classified as a DAO.
That is what I am talking about.
Anyone that owns one can see that the trigger pull does a single action. It releases an already fully cocked striker.
Anyone that says that it is a DAO is a LIAR or an idiot.
LoneStarWings
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I really like my M&P .40 full size. I've put 2500 rounds through it and have ony had a few jams, all the result of me chambering a round or loading mags incorrectly when it was new. I haven't had a jam in the last 1000 rounds or so. It feeds all types of ammo I've tried very reliably. Monarch, Blazer, Winchester or Federal HST hollowpoints, american eagle, etc etc, in weights from 155 to 180gr. Great weapon, highly reccomended. My local PD uses them too and the officers have good thing to say.
fastbolt
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I own a pair each of Glocks (subcompact 9/.40), SW99's (9 compact/.40 standard) and M&P's (.45 full-size/.40 compact).
I've attended armorer classes for each of those various platforms.
I think all of them are fine.
I think the 99 series offers some improvements & refinements over the Glock.
I think the M&P offers some improvements & refinements over the 99 series.
I'm sure other folks have their own opinions and preferences ...
I've attended armorer classes for each of those various platforms.
I think all of them are fine.
I think the 99 series offers some improvements & refinements over the Glock.
I think the M&P offers some improvements & refinements over the 99 series.
I'm sure other folks have their own opinions and preferences ...
model of 1905
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Great guns, I own two and would buy another.
Nice gun, just not a "keeper"
Nice plastic gun, good ergos, crappy trigger, 100% reliable. Mine went back to S&W for a spotty finish on the slide and control levers. That was partially my fault for buying it that way but I knew they would repair/replace any defect. I got mine when the .45 had just dropped and were hard to find.
When it came right down to it though I sold it off. The ONLY thing it could do that my 1911 couldn't do was hold a light. I can hold a light in one hand old Kimber in the other and still get better accuracy than I could with both hands on the M&P.
Proceeds from the sale went to buy a new Marlin 1894c and some Wilson 10rd mags for my Kimber.
Win/win.
Nice plastic gun, good ergos, crappy trigger, 100% reliable. Mine went back to S&W for a spotty finish on the slide and control levers. That was partially my fault for buying it that way but I knew they would repair/replace any defect. I got mine when the .45 had just dropped and were hard to find.
When it came right down to it though I sold it off. The ONLY thing it could do that my 1911 couldn't do was hold a light. I can hold a light in one hand old Kimber in the other and still get better accuracy than I could with both hands on the M&P.
Proceeds from the sale went to buy a new Marlin 1894c and some Wilson 10rd mags for my Kimber.
Win/win.
tydephan
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I trust my life and the lives of my family with the M&P.
I have 3 M&Ps currently. I had four but didn't care for the M&P45.
My M&P40 is my home defense gun. I keep an M&P9 in my truck. And I wear an M&P9c everywhere I go.
I had the mag drop issues with my 9c. I was disappointed, to say the least. brand new gun. Damn mag wouldn't stay in. This, after I'd bought in hard on the series because they fit me so well and I shot the gun so well.
I called Smith up. They made it as painless as could be. All they asked me to do was box it up and schedule a pickup from UPS. They emailed me a prepaid overnight label. I did as they asked, and packaged it up with a nastygram of dissatisfaction.
8 days later, the UPS guy knocks on my door to my utter surprise, with a package from Smith. It was my gun. Fixed. And sporting a nice new set of tritium night sights that weren't there previously. Comped, for my troubles and all.
I've taken an oath to shoot more often. I'm trying to get to the range every weekend, and every weekend at least 2 of the 3 M&Ps go with me. I'm going on my 4th weekend of this, with approximately 600 rounds downrange and haven't had a failure from any of them.
My first gun was a Glock 22. It was a great gun. I still think very highly of Glock. Gaston Glock came along and dropped a bomb on the industry and his creations have kept a lot of people safe over the years. But the M&P works better for me, and I trust its reliability and accuracy. And Smith's commitment to the gun, IMO, is unequivocal.
I have 3 M&Ps currently. I had four but didn't care for the M&P45.
My M&P40 is my home defense gun. I keep an M&P9 in my truck. And I wear an M&P9c everywhere I go.
I had the mag drop issues with my 9c. I was disappointed, to say the least. brand new gun. Damn mag wouldn't stay in. This, after I'd bought in hard on the series because they fit me so well and I shot the gun so well.
I called Smith up. They made it as painless as could be. All they asked me to do was box it up and schedule a pickup from UPS. They emailed me a prepaid overnight label. I did as they asked, and packaged it up with a nastygram of dissatisfaction.
8 days later, the UPS guy knocks on my door to my utter surprise, with a package from Smith. It was my gun. Fixed. And sporting a nice new set of tritium night sights that weren't there previously. Comped, for my troubles and all.
I've taken an oath to shoot more often. I'm trying to get to the range every weekend, and every weekend at least 2 of the 3 M&Ps go with me. I'm going on my 4th weekend of this, with approximately 600 rounds downrange and haven't had a failure from any of them.
My first gun was a Glock 22. It was a great gun. I still think very highly of Glock. Gaston Glock came along and dropped a bomb on the industry and his creations have kept a lot of people safe over the years. But the M&P works better for me, and I trust its reliability and accuracy. And Smith's commitment to the gun, IMO, is unequivocal.
HoosierQ
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At the risk of fanning some flames here...and in hopes of extinguishing them...I want to revisit the cocking issues with the M&P.
Clearly the Glock is half-cocked. On my 1991 era 17, after triple checking that I am unloaded...I can actually see between the slide and the frame well enough to see the actuator pushing the striker back before it releases on a dry-fire. I can also detect the spring tension with my index finger as this happens. So two of my own senses plus the Glock literature tell me what I know.
With the M&P, I have not been so clear. I cannot see the thing happening, my triggers are very smooth, and during the take up, I do not feel the same sort of thing that I feel on the Glock. PLUS I got the whole internet information gap/overload in which there seems to be quite a divergence of opinion on the matter and I have not seen any facts.
So, hoping to bring facts to the conversation, is the M&P Half, Full, or nearly-Full cocked? I have heard all three stated with equal passion and certainty. Which leaves me uncertain.
Regardless, I love both mine, shoot them better than any pistol I have ever owned, and my 9c is my EDC (taking turns with a 642).
Clearly the Glock is half-cocked. On my 1991 era 17, after triple checking that I am unloaded...I can actually see between the slide and the frame well enough to see the actuator pushing the striker back before it releases on a dry-fire. I can also detect the spring tension with my index finger as this happens. So two of my own senses plus the Glock literature tell me what I know.
With the M&P, I have not been so clear. I cannot see the thing happening, my triggers are very smooth, and during the take up, I do not feel the same sort of thing that I feel on the Glock. PLUS I got the whole internet information gap/overload in which there seems to be quite a divergence of opinion on the matter and I have not seen any facts.
So, hoping to bring facts to the conversation, is the M&P Half, Full, or nearly-Full cocked? I have heard all three stated with equal passion and certainty. Which leaves me uncertain.
Regardless, I love both mine, shoot them better than any pistol I have ever owned, and my 9c is my EDC (taking turns with a 642).
DrLaw
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"Depends on your definition of what the word "is" is." Bill Clinton
The Doc is out now.
PS. doesn't seem like they are worried about that, and with my S&W revolvers, neither am I. Just haven't gotten around to trying the M&P Auto yet.
MythBuster
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Anyone who is capable of field stripping their M&P can see it is a single action.
All you have to do is field strip the pistol and pull the trigger and watch the sear.
It does not take a rocket scientist to understand this.
The trigger pull moves the sear down releasing a fully cocked striker.
It is that simple.
Case closed.
All you have to do is field strip the pistol and pull the trigger and watch the sear.
It does not take a rocket scientist to understand this.
The trigger pull moves the sear down releasing a fully cocked striker.
It is that simple.
Case closed.
Uncle Mike
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I'm tired of tupperware! Why do I care if the CEO's make more bottom line?
Give me steel, aluminum, hours of fabrication time... or give me....well I'm just not going to say death... it aint that big a deal...
If you like a liquid goo squirted into a mould to make your frame... more power to ya'.
Advice... keep your tupperware out of reach of the family k-9. hehehe
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Give me steel, aluminum, hours of fabrication time... or give me....well I'm just not going to say death... it aint that big a deal...
If you like a liquid goo squirted into a mould to make your frame... more power to ya'.
Advice... keep your tupperware out of reach of the family k-9. hehehe
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HoosierQ
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MythBuster
Well, that's what I thought too. Again, the fact that the thing is classed as a DAO on a technicality is what I think had the poster above riled up.
I have always assumed that it was fully cocked.
So I agree with you, the case is closed for me. Thanks for contributing.
Q
Well, that's what I thought too. Again, the fact that the thing is classed as a DAO on a technicality is what I think had the poster above riled up.
I have always assumed that it was fully cocked.
So I agree with you, the case is closed for me. Thanks for contributing.
Q
MythBuster
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I would like to know what that "technicality" may be.
Joe Demko
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I won an M&P .45 a little less than a year ago. Nifty gun. Never cared for Glocks, but the M&P is a keeper.
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