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So, whatever happened to the "hot" gun control debate?

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  1. LiveLife

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    So, whatever happened to the "hot" gun control debate?'

    "Washington ... already moved on." :rofl::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

    How gun control got lost in the impeachment drama - Blessing in disguise? Well, anti-gun can blame the anti-Trumpers.

     
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    I can't help but think that President Trump's rather open and undefined statement about being willing to sit down with gun-control advocates came when he knew this impeachment crap was gonna happen. Now the whacky left have shot themselves in the foot (pun) and I don't see them getting ANYTHING through his office.

    Yep, the never-Trumpers and the loony left have ruined their chances to further erode our 2nd Amendment ... for now.
     
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    Could you elaborate please?

    I don't think we should ever talk about "controlling" my firearms. Let alone years ago.

    I'm sure I just misunderstand.




    I must admit to a bit of joy listening to their "news" (noose?;)) and hearing them more and more confounded.

    I wish some talking head would lament not having gun laws like Europe and someone would pipe up about suppressors being, not only legal, but polite to use.
    Perhaps than the HPA could gain traction as they stumble on it to cover-up trying to thwart the president.

    Which they seem to be terrible at.:)
     
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    I would discuss gun control when the left discusses free speech control.
     
  5. Virginia Jim

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    Once again. The Left will not be satisfied until every American is fully and totally disarmed.
    Of that let there be no doubt.
     
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    The gun debate has not gone away. The Virginia election is in a few days, and gun control is the #1 issue. The result will be a big indicator of where this is going.
     
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    The purpose of the gun control "debate" is to fire up the progressive base and attract suburban women swing voters. It's not a debate, it's a campaign tactic. If another campaign tactic presents itself - such as focusing on Trump's own actions - then the focus will go there for campaign purposes.

    Moreover, thanks to polarization and in part to the decision of the gun lobby to go all-in on general conservative causes and just become an arm of the GOP, there is no question that, just as soon as they win enough elections to have the votes, the Democratic party will pass all kinds of new gun laws.

    If they're not actively "debating" it right now, that should provide zero comfort that they won't immediately act on it any time and any place they get the political authority to do so.
     
  8. GEM

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    That's true, it's a political totem. One thing that was interesting in the debate was the AWB crowd:

    1. Didn't know squat at times.
    Kamala proclaimed she would ban the import of assault weapons. Hey, they are made here? What are you talking about?
    Uncle Joe said he got assault weapons out of production and banned in the AWB. Crime went down. Sorry - Uncle Hair Sniff - referred research found no noticeable impact on any crime indices after the AWB. Next, the existing weapons which were grandfathered met most demands as did the magazines. Also, AR weapons without the cosmetics were produced in the hundreds of thousands right after the ban

    2. They all fell apart on how to confiscate (if they favored that, some were for registration - which had its own problems). No idea how to. Beto seemed to actually want the house to house search. Interestingly Castro nailed that by saying we don't need another excuse for searching minority neighborhoods and perhaps killing more innocents by accident - as just happened in Fort Worth. You could bet ATF agents aren't raiding the rich gates communities and breaking down doors. Made Beto look like a fool (not hard).
     
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    Kamala knows what she is doing. On guns, as on other issues, her position is designed to sound good to the base, while saying nothing of substance, leaving her wiggle room for the general election. The problem is that this is inherently fraudulent, and even the base realizes that. There's a glaring lack of authenticity. That's why she's failing to gain any traction in the polls.
     
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    Liberal women hate guns, and the people who own them. Even some not so liberal women dislike firearms. When they come together and vote as a bloc, maybe next year, maybe 2024, we are in a world of hurt.

    The "debate" hasn't moved on. They are firing up their base as even we speak.
     
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    Sigh, that is a wild and incorrect over generalization. The use of liberal in such a broad characterization of gun rights serves no one. Let's move on.
     
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    Agreed. I wouldn't use "liberal" in this context. I would say "college-educated suburbanite" instead.

    I see a lot of bias against gun owners from my neighbors, who fit that demographic.
     
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    A college education doesn’t necessarily translate to an actual education.
     
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    I like it.
     
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    Buried and cold. Where gun control should be.
     
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    Yeah I had noticed that she can talk a lot and not really say anything.
     
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    Then she obviously doesn't really know what she's doing.
     
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    Actually gun control is extremely racist.
    From 2001 to 2016 the ATF says 91% of who they locked up for gun violations were inner city minorities.
    Too bad people don't see it for what it is.
    Just another way dems overtly oppress minorities while beeing cheered on by a crowd.
     
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    Ukraine seemed like a better way to go.
     
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    This right here. It's not just liberal women, either; it's young male voters and soon-to-be voters. I've been teaching civics to 9th-12th graders for a while now, and, as I listen to their ideas, I'm really in fear for my country. Even here in deep red state, Alaska, the anti-gun rhetoric amongst young people, regardless of gender, race, or socio-economic status, is the norm. The very few who are not anti-gun are afraid to expose themselves. When these young people start to vote, people like us will become as the dinosaurs, and it's going to happen about as quickly.
     
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    That's why the founders chose constitutional republic for our form of government, so the will of the majority could not be imposed on the rights of the minority.

    Besides, with Trump win in 2020, he will continue to appoint federal judges and SCOTUS justices to secure the judicial future for gun rights and 2A for decades and generations.
     
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    Beyond Beto's floundering on how to illegally confiscate guns from the population, and Kamala's spouting of really incorrect statistics, you had Warren and Bernie talking about adding semiautomatic rifles to the NFA registry...that may have a shot at getting pushed through depending on the landscape of Congress after the election. Not that I'm a fan if the idea, but there's 80 years of established law restricting access to firearms outlined in the NFA, so a court battle would be more difficult than defending against straight confiscation. I think that will be the one we need to watch out for.
     
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    Please stop calling anti gun people liberal`s.They are anything but liberal.
     
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    I was referring to Harris' so-called ignorance on guns. She knows about guns -- at least she knows enough about guns to craft a position that sounds good to nascent antigunners, but really does nothing. (Most "assault weapons" are domestically produced, and are not imported. An import ban would do nothing. She knows this.) The fact that this strategy is spectacularly failing, for her, is another issue.
     
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    Please. Let's not go there. Hitching gun rights to Trump would be a colossal mistake. The way things are going, he may not even be the Republican nominee in 2020.
     
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