Sam1911
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Eventually I think the consensus was yes.
So what's with the brand hate?
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My braggers: S&W Model 15-3, refinished in black teflon and Hogue-gripped by the west coast PD who sold it; S&W Model 15-3 in nickel; Taurus M82; Taurus M850-blue; Browning BHP MKIII SHOT Show digi-camo model.
Locker queen: Browning BHP MKII in USAF Blue. Shoots well, but with MKIII, keeping for posterity.
Banished to the locker until I decide what to do with it: Taurus M905IB 9mm.
Locker queen: Browning BHP MKII in USAF Blue. Shoots well, but with MKIII, keeping for posterity.
Banished to the locker until I decide what to do with it: Taurus M905IB 9mm.
Opinions are pretty much like everything else everybody has one of.
I never met a gun I didn't like. Even the Ring of Fire crap, it's just a challenge to figure what it would take to fix it, and see if it's cost prohibitive. If it is, sell it, on to the next project.
Taurus gets a lot of credit for their CS, it may take 5 weeks but they don't quibble on the phone and they aren't scared to replace the whole gun if needed. One of their 1911's may be in my future, because when the time comes I'll lay one on the counter next to the SR1911 and check operation, features and price and after an adjustment for where it's made (as I live here, and want guns to be made here) I''ll make a choice and that choice will be one that I'm content with.
HK's never entered my thinking much, I'm more of a S&W fan so auto's don't dominate my thinking much although I've shot most everything at one time or other. But I happened to come into possession of a USP 9 from a friend in a computer parts deal, and I can say they are pretty much what's advertised, how they manage the recoil I have no clue but it's different to shoot and for me it's a natural point. But it's a large gun, 1911 large and wider, and it will never be a carry piece. Are they worth hundreds more than a Sig? No, but full sized Sigs cost as much.
I never met a gun I didn't like. Even the Ring of Fire crap, it's just a challenge to figure what it would take to fix it, and see if it's cost prohibitive. If it is, sell it, on to the next project.
Taurus gets a lot of credit for their CS, it may take 5 weeks but they don't quibble on the phone and they aren't scared to replace the whole gun if needed. One of their 1911's may be in my future, because when the time comes I'll lay one on the counter next to the SR1911 and check operation, features and price and after an adjustment for where it's made (as I live here, and want guns to be made here) I''ll make a choice and that choice will be one that I'm content with.
HK's never entered my thinking much, I'm more of a S&W fan so auto's don't dominate my thinking much although I've shot most everything at one time or other. But I happened to come into possession of a USP 9 from a friend in a computer parts deal, and I can say they are pretty much what's advertised, how they manage the recoil I have no clue but it's different to shoot and for me it's a natural point. But it's a large gun, 1911 large and wider, and it will never be a carry piece. Are they worth hundreds more than a Sig? No, but full sized Sigs cost as much.
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Sam Cade
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Hilarious...and totally wrong. A logo is just that, a logo, nothing more.
Hey look, its their corporate website!
http://www.heckler-koch.de/Company
What they say about themselves:
...and look here at their business address:
The legally registered name of the corporate entity is
"Heckler & Koch GmbH, Oberndorf"
...and attached is a picture of the sign in front of their Oberndorf production facility.
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Sam Cade
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...but wait, there is more!
If you want to contact H&K in the states, what is the name of the US subsidiary?
If you want to contact H&K in the states, what is the name of the US subsidiary?
MachIVshooter
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Worth it? Very few handguns. Cost it? Too many.
Having sold my Desert Eagle .50, I don't own any pistols worth more than $1,000.
There is. It's subtly twisted around the S, behind the W
mortablunt
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H&K? I don't really know or care that much about their handguns. If I get anything of theirs, it's an MP-5.
Taurus? I don't like the look of the guns in general. I also just think that some of them feel fragile; as if they're just a weak bit of bakelite.
Taurus Judge? A shotpistol with crappy quality control which seems to either blow or be a dream. I don't really feel like trusting my life to a gun which may not stay together after a few months.
Taurus? I don't like the look of the guns in general. I also just think that some of them feel fragile; as if they're just a weak bit of bakelite.
Taurus Judge? A shotpistol with crappy quality control which seems to either blow or be a dream. I don't really feel like trusting my life to a gun which may not stay together after a few months.
Justin
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The previously posted link to youarenotsosmart.com hits the nail right on the head.
The bottom line is this: We live in a time and place where the majority of guns made by most companies are of such robust quality that there is no measurable difference from one maker to the next when it comes to the vast majority of people who own guns. (Yes, I'm talking to you.)
For most gun owners, there's no functional difference between, say, a gun made by Taurus and a similar model from S&W. The vast majority of owners will never, ever fire enough rounds through either gun to be able to tell a difference on all but the most superficial level, and it doesn't matter if a gun from Brand X will wear out faster than one from Brand Y because it will take many tens of thousands of rounds before that even becomes an issue.
The bottom line is this: We live in a time and place where the majority of guns made by most companies are of such robust quality that there is no measurable difference from one maker to the next when it comes to the vast majority of people who own guns. (Yes, I'm talking to you.)
For most gun owners, there's no functional difference between, say, a gun made by Taurus and a similar model from S&W. The vast majority of owners will never, ever fire enough rounds through either gun to be able to tell a difference on all but the most superficial level, and it doesn't matter if a gun from Brand X will wear out faster than one from Brand Y because it will take many tens of thousands of rounds before that even becomes an issue.
bg
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Gosh I know what this brand deal means..I have a Bersa 380 and am most times
hearing about how they are basically just cheap throw-aways, but this lil pistola
has been a blast to shoot and much cheaper in ammo compared to my 45 long
colt rounds which I use in my old Colt SAA and Ruger's.
It ain't purty, but it shoots.
hearing about how they are basically just cheap throw-aways, but this lil pistola
has been a blast to shoot and much cheaper in ammo compared to my 45 long
colt rounds which I use in my old Colt SAA and Ruger's.
It ain't purty, but it shoots.
Sam1911
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[If there's value in continuing this thread, let's drop the "does it have an '&' symbol" argument and insult. If we really have nothing better to discuss here, then this thread must be done.]
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well if i had to choose between having a baseball bat or having a taruas, id choose the taruas(maybe)
its not so much i absolutly hate them, its that there are other guns that fit my intrests a lot more
like i would rather by a reproduction black powder revolver then a taraus, or a ppk, or a 1911, or a p.08, or a p38, seeing a trend? i just like older style weapons
the hk part, if i wanted a tactical pistol then it would be perfect, thing is, i dont want anything that modular for that kinda price
its not so much i absolutly hate them, its that there are other guns that fit my intrests a lot more
like i would rather by a reproduction black powder revolver then a taraus, or a ppk, or a 1911, or a p.08, or a p38, seeing a trend? i just like older style weapons
the hk part, if i wanted a tactical pistol then it would be perfect, thing is, i dont want anything that modular for that kinda price
Sam1911
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