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So where are the 7-30 waters bolt guns hiding....

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Ks5shooter, Dec 31, 2013.

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  1. Ks5shooter

    Ks5shooter Member

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    I own 7-30 waters in a Winchester 94 lever gun and a T/C Contender in this awesome caliber.Does or has anyone made it in a bolt gun?After many years of reloading Id love to stretch the legs of this caliber in a bolt gun.Happy New Year....Don
     
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    7mm/08 Remington will do all and more that a 7 Waters would do in a bolt gun.
    You could have a gunsmith chamber and install a barrel on a .30/30 Remington 788 or Savage/Stevens 340 but it would cost as much as the base rifle now.
     
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    Own a 7mm-08 and love it..Would be a cool gun to have and reload for in a bolt gun.:):):):)
     
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    The 30-30 bolt actions can be changed to 7-30 waters. Seen one in 30-30 AI.
     
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    Don't ever remember seeing a boltgun in 7-30. You 'could' rebarrel one of the Savage 340's but I don't know why anyone would want to do that.
     
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    Would a rimmed cartridge feed reliably in a bolt gun?
     
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    savage made it work with a 30/30. the russians didn't have an issue with the mosin, the us with the krag, and the brits used the enfield.

    but to the op, practically speaking you would probably do better to use the '94 as a single shot or 1+1 gun.
     
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    But you'd have the same problem that the 30-30's have in these platforms. No room to shoot long pointy bullets.

    They've had 7-30 bolt guns for the better part of 120 years look for them under the designation of 7x57 ;-)
     
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    A 7-30 and 7X57 aren't even remotely related. The cases are completely different, and the 7X57 is about 500 fps faster.
     
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    To quote John828
    "Would a rimmed cartridge feed reliably in a bolt gun?"

    Yes they will.
     
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    I see that sarcasm is utterly lost on you ;-)


    Back to the OP. I went through a spell where I would get all starry eyed for a particular oddball cartridge and would spend all kinds of money building guns, working loads, buying the best components and researching to the nines.

    But then one day I realized something.

    A piece of brass is just a piece of brass one isn't really any more special than the other because of its shape. All they do is hold some powder, a bullet and primer in the proper locations to go BANG and put a hole in a target. Something EVERY metallic rifle cartridge mankind has ever devised manages to do.

    Once I realized this the wildcats and oddballs quickly lost their appeal to me and I merely became a CALIBER fan (as in bullet diameter) and started buying the simple tried and true cartridges in those calibers in the platforms I wanted and loaded them up or down depending on what I wanted to do.

    Hence it's a heck of a lot easier and cheaper to load a bolt action 7x57 to mimic a 7/30 than it is to build a strong 7-30 bolt action and try to turn it into a 7x57 (or 7-08)

    The only conceivable exception is if you have an ENCORE and already load for 7-30 would be to order a MGM barrel in that chambering. But again you could just get a $200 7/08 barrel, download and disavow yourself of the belief that the BANG and resulting hole in the target would be actually any different were you using a 7-30 case.
     
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    I hope I never have that realization.
     
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    Not being starry eyed just thinking it would be cool to do.Already own the calibers you mentioned,so it would be a winter to do.
     
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    You could rebarrel a 788 .30-30 to 7-30 but be limited by the short magazine.

    If you wanted to go wild with it, you could rebarrel a Winchester Model 54 .30-30 to 7-30. It was commonly done to rechamber those to .30-40 Krag, so there is room. You might get off a few shots before the collectors arrived with torches and pitchforks to drive out your demons.
     
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    ......or you could find a 788 chambered in 7mm-08 and have a better cartridge and cheaper alternative to boot.

    Had a T/C super 14 in the Waters when it first came out. It did great with 120gr Ballistic Tips on deer, very accurate with low recoil. Got bored with it and sold it years ago.
     
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