Some AR-15s are now C&R eligible?!

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  1. Dirty Bob

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    I couldn't believe it, but Ian at Forgotten Weapons has a new video on this very topic. Watch with caution, or you might start the C&R application process!

    Yeah, the AR15 is Now Becoming C&R Eligible (YouTube video)

    All my best,
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    Not only that, but all pre-'64 Winchesters have been C&R eligible for a couple of years. It's one of those weird facts that makes me feel older because I'll be "C&R eligible" in not too long. :D
     
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    Any firearm (not full auto) is automatically C&R if over 50 years old, which makes my October '65 Win 95 eligible. The earlier AR15's have been eligible for a few years already. Even AK's if semi auto are, along with FNFAL's, HK91's, etc etc.

    It's about being 50 years old.

    What some face with buying them to ship to their home are FFL's who aren't well versed in it and who refuse to cooperate. To quote the ATF, "it is not necessary for such firearms to be listed in the ATF's C&R list." https://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios-relics

    It's about being 50 years old. No modifications or caliber changes seem to be allowed, which puts some of those old WWII era Mausers rebarreled in .308 into question. Do gunmaker enhanced early M39s like Devel put out qualify?

    Note that some firearms on the list are considered curios already, even tho not 50 years old. FN HiPowers "Rennaissance" 9mm, up to 1976 are C&R. The newest would only be 41 years old. Most of these are $2000 and up heavily engraved and some gold plated. Not your average Alaskan guide bear gun.

    As the link to the Forgotten Weapons site notes, there are over 10,000 SP1's - semiautomatic AR15's eligible. In the language of the anti gunners they would state that we could buy an assault rifle "thru the mail" and ship it directly to our home without any FFL or background check. Technically accurate enough for them. We are left to argue what constitutes an assault rifle. I don't think being C&R would change CA or NY's laws. I guess that leaves more for us.

    We are now looking at any semi auto gun made before 1967 or so being C&R. Next year it's 1968. The year after, 1969. Keep going far enough and the HK91 I bought in 1978 will be C&R. You younger guys have some good times coming.
     
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    And someday Glocks too.
     
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    I bought my first AR-15, new, in 1968, so it will be a "C&R" next year. I don't see much practical effect from this, since I don't plan on selling it interstate to an 03 FFL. This rule isn't something earth-shaking.
     
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    This is not true. Fully automatic C&R firearms can be shipped directly to a C&R licensee once all of the other formalities have been met.
     
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    As noted, not correct. In fact the C&R list published by ATF has an NFA section. The first C&R gun I ever bought was a machine gun. Something nice about having the mail man deliver a MG to turn front door.

    And the original production model AR15s have been C&R-eligible for quite some time now. Those would be the full-auto Colt/Armalite model 01.

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    Wow.... I'm really getting old.
     
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    The department had one bought new in the mid 60's. Threeprong flash suppressor, pencil barrel and a slick side. traded in years ago .
     
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    At first I seems shocking, but I was in this man's army when the M-16 first came out. Holy crap, that was over 50 years ago. I am getting old & I still can't decide what I want to be when I grow up.
     
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    Even though after basic training I had no desire to own an AR 15 due to how finicky I found the Colt M16 to be it was and still is a firearm built with tight tolerances. 1980 was my last experience with the M16 as being a 19F or M60A3 tank driver the 1911 and the M3 grease gun were my personal weapons and I had no need to qualify with the 16. I don't own a 1911 either for that matter. I grew tired of carrying it as well it was heavy and didn't have the magazine capacity I desired. I made expert with all 3 weapons and I'm proud of that fact. It shows that a skinny country boy might have known a little more about shooting than the average recruit.
    I now want to get a 300 blackout and it uses the AR platform. I had no personal problem with the platform, the Colts tight tolerances and it's accuracy was good enough at 400 meters but it's tendency to be fouled by the least bit of dirt,grass,leaf or just dust is why I have never owned an AR. I now know that the term AR 15 does not mean it is made by any certain manufacturer or that the tolerances are tight. I would like to see NFA repealed as the 3 round burst kit was the cats meow firing the M16 and with perfect conditions it functioned flawlessly.
     
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    If you look closely you can see the "Patents Pending" mark! Wonderful!
     
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