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Some holsters now AOW's?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by kd7nqb, May 13, 2007.

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  1. kd7nqb

    kd7nqb Member

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    A buddy of mine at work recently purchased a Kel-Tec P3at and after he and I spent time at the range with it, I realize that I want one as well. Mostly due to size and the fact that it would fit into more attire options.

    While doing some online research on pocket holsters I found this, wonder if anybody has any more insight on this topic.

    "The ATF's ruling a few years ago entails two parts. If the holster gives the overall appearance of looking like a wallet, AND the gun can be operated, i.e., pull the trigger, while it is still seated in the holster, then you have to register the wallet holster. There is a fee (approx $200+) to register it, and you also have to inform ATF if you transfer ownership to another person."

    I would hate to think that the ATF is now legislating the size and shape of the leather I put my gun in.

    I found another link saying that they were AOW'S thus its a five dollar fee instead of 200

    Please clarify.
     
  2. BADUNAME13

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    IF you can shoot it in the holster.

    If you gatta pull it out to shoot it you are OK.
     
  3. Librarian

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    Do you suppose they mean something like this?
     
  4. Jorg Nysgerrig

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  5. kd7nqb

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    It seems like its ok for it to be squarish and look like a wallet when its in your back pocket as long as you need it to be removed to fire.

    I did not realize that the ATF had gone this far.
     
  6. mdao

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    Nope, this isn't an AOW. The gun + wallet combination is clearly a gun after being removed from the pocket.

    If the holster + gun still looks like a wallet (or anything else that's decidedly non-gun) and can be shot without removing the gun from the holster, it's an AOW. If it's still identifiable as a gun then it's not an AOW.

    This is about as close as you can get to a AOW wallet holster and not be an AOW.
     
  7. CajunBass

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    I was also told that the Freedom Arms belt buckle "holster" qualifies as an AOW. Don't know if it's true or not. The gun or the holster seperate no. The two together. Yes.

    I wasn't interested in either really, so I never checked into it further.
     
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    Incrementalism is the gun grabbers most effective tool.
     
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    Wait...

    So if I put my glock inside a small bag, and put a hole in the bag so I can grab the trigger, my ultra-tactical deadly bag of death now needs a $200 tax & registration?
     
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    I was going to buy one back about ten years ago. Since it was a AOW I could not buy it in Illinois.
     
  11. zoom6zoom

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    Ya gotta remember that this is the same bunch that declared a shoelace = machine gun!
     
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    I've a wallet holster I purchased years ago directly from North American Arms, which encases the model NAA22LR. Give me a day, I'll photograph it and post it. Is anyone else familiar with these holsters?
     
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    ^^^
     
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    And it's our fault for letting them get away with it.
     
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    I've seen one of those before. They're pretty neat. It looks like a wallet. Fits a little .25 inside and when you pull it out and lay it flat on your hand it still looks like a wallet. On the other side there is a hole that allows for the trigger to be pulled. Great for anti-mugger jobs. I can't believe that the ATF is now regulating our holsters.
     
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    Thanks for the information, gentlemen. I'll be ordering a Holdster for my P32 very soon!
     
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    In line with putting a gun unholstered in a bad that has an opening, what about simply putting an ultra compact pistol unholstered in your pants pocket? Since you can reach into your pants and pull the trigger, is your pants pocket now an AOW also?
     
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    lint and dust in the action, plus hooking your keys in the triggergaurd can be painfull and noisy.

    rms/pa
     
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    Galco used to make one. I think it fit the Seecamp and the Beretta Jetfire. I remember the disclaimer stating that it was not intended for live fire practice - as it would be damaged or destroyed - and that the gun would likely not cycle after the first shot.
     
  20. SniperStraz

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    That makes sense. Thanx for the info.
     
  21. ball3006

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    So I guess that...

    shooting through your jacket pocket is now out.........chris3
     
  22. Eightball

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    Probably. If that makes your pants deadly weapons, imagine the pickup lines you could use :rolleyes:
     
  23. The Lone Haranguer

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    Hypothetical (but moot) question

    Is the wallet holster with no gun in it still an AOW?
     
  24. wdlsguy

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    I don't think so, but I wouldn't want to be in possession of a wallet holster and a gun that fits it without an approved Form 1 or Form 4.
     
  25. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    Nope.
     
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