Some ?'s on the Mini 14

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It wasn't the seventies, guys. Buy a used Mini-14/30, if you must. Hell, buy whatever you like. But maybe with every Ruger sold Sturm Ruger and Co. should get a letter criticizing Bill Ruger for appeasing the gun grabbers...
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MULLIGA:

BILL RUGER IS DEAD AND HAS BEEN DEAD FOR 18 MONTHS. I SAY IT AGAIN, BECAUSE YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T READ IT THE FIRST TIME. PLEASE ADDRESS HOW WE ARE TO PUNISH A DEAD GUY BY SENDING LETTERS TO THE COMPANY THAT BEARS THE NAMES OF TWO DEAD GUYS?

You might want to reread my post before you defend this also. I said that RUGER was in his 70's as in his age. To be clear, he was about 72 or 73. I certainly did NOT say that he'd said these things in the 1970's, but that is when the gun was introduced. If you haven't checked lately, Bill's still DEAD!
 
.............But Bill Ruger Jr. is running the business.


He was on Gun Talk a few months ago. I wonder if anyone ever ripped him about his Dad.
 
Bill Ruger Jr. might very well support gun control. If he or anybody in charge of any gun company bends over for the Gun Controllers, I'll certainly support a boycot. Look what we did with S&W. I was all for that and supported it by not only refusing to deal with new S&W products, but I took S&W off my links list and bad-mouthed the company at every chance I got. But that all stopped the day Safe-T-Lock took control. The day Bill Ruger died, my gripes with him ended. The son should not suffer for the sins of the father.
 
Reading what Bill said makes me think he might have had another idea - don't try and classify assualt weapons (the mess we have now) - just limit magazine capacity. We can all agree that a .223 out of a bolt action does the same thing as a .223 out of an AR. So why make the AR illegal - just make it only legal with a 10 round mag. Of course, the best solution is no control, but that wasn't going to happen. Clinton and Brady wanted the guns and nothing was going to stop him.

If all the government did was require small mags I might be able to get an AR15 in California to shoot HP with now, with a small legal mag, as apposed to the entire gun being outlawed because it became classified as an assault weapon.

Just food for thought and nothing to do with the Mini. I had a mini briefly - it was a fun gun. My Garand is much more accurate.

Jeff
 
I want a Mini-14 and all, but if Bill Ruger is dead, why isn't the company making almost-dishonest-man 10 round magazines?
 
IIRC, the logic at the time was strictly business. Maybe I'm wrong, but the compromise ban was bounced around that would outright ban any magazine over 15 or 20 rounds... which seemed reasonable to people who aren't Gun-Libretarians like myself. Even the NRA and ILA had toyed with the idea of supporting 'reasonable' bans like this. In the end, they pissed me and lots of other people off AND we got a drastically worse ban also. The French are experts at this kind of negotiation. There is no negotiation allowed in the Second Ammendment.

Machineguns for Toddlers! :evil:
 
Man, so many different opinions on the mini. Like I said, it would mainly just be a plinker and possible defense weapon. I'm not planning on shooting ice cubes at 100 yards, but like another poster noted, if the beer can dances...

The main thing that really concerns me is the flimsy barrel. I don't want some out of whack barrel the first time I ever light up the barn, which I'll hopefully hit:p I like the fact that almost everyone says that it is reliable. As long as I can hit man sized targets at 100yds, I'll take reliability any day of the week.

DJ
 
I've had 2. Regular and a Ranch in blue. Both were reliable and both could thump a bad guy (target) in the chest at 100 yards no problem. Hot or cold barrel. ProMag 10 round mags worked great. Like the peep sights on the regular better than the peep on the ranch..and better than a scope which added a little weight and was slower to get on target (for me anyway). Never tried the mini-30 but I would like to. There are better "values" available to me in my area whereas some people do not have these options so I traded out. But given the criteria that was asked I could make the Mini-14 work. I would just add a compensator ($20), pick up a couple of ProMag 10 rounders (cuz I know they work), and practice.
 
Ignore the folks talking smack about the Mini-14 who say it's inaccurate and then go on to recommend an AK. I have both. A Mini-14 and an AK will give comparable accuracy from the factory, but a Mini-14 is a lot easier to make more accurate. The Mini-14 is extremely reliable with decent ammo and good magazines. Since you're in Kali, that means Ruger factory 5 rounders, or 10 rounders from Masen or Pro-Mag.

If you don't want to go to the expense of getting your barrel chopped, you can improve accuracy by installing a John Masen Black Warrior muzzle brake. The extra weight on the end of the barrel seems to dampen the oscillations that cause poor accuracy. The Perfect Union BBS has a lot of other good tips on accurizing the Mini-14.

Unless you are going to scope the rifle don't get a Ranch Rifle. The rear sight is rather flimsy.

If possible, I would try to find an older Mini-14 in excellent condition, though. Based on what I've read, the older Minis exhibit superior workmanship. Mini is a 182-series made in 1981 or 82 and runs like a champ.
 
Unless you are going to scope the rifle don't get a Ranch Rifle. The rear sight is rather flimsy.
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That's what I was thinking also. But how hard would it be to mount a Bushnell Holosight on the regular mini?

DJ
 
No thanks, I don't want to get into the work of trying to make a custom rig. They don't make a mount that's just bolt on and go for the regular mini?

DJ
 
:confused: I thought Mulliga was being sarcastic. Maybe I misread....

My Mini-14 (Stainless Ranch, Burris 1.5-6x, Ramline stock, BW double brake, Knifong trigger job & reduced gas port) shoots under 2" groups at 100 yds, but only if you measure left/right. When it heats up (and it heats up darn quick), POI shifts downward, and I'll put together a string about 6-7" long.

I like my Mini. Fun to shoot. Seriously considering ASI's upgrades, tho. Don't much like the stringing....
 
They don't make a mount that's just bolt on and go for the regular mini?
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yes..there are bolt ons that slide into the newer style sideplate(where the old stle bolt release was).they use a nut to remove and attach the base.problem is 1 the base plate is steel..the nut aluminum and the base aluminum.strips the threads very easily if you overtighten it.supposedly..its for quick detach type deal but I have found them to be 1 timers that dont last and wont retain any zero because the whole thing is screwed onto the sideplate by 1 knob that strips out easily.
 
Mine is 188-series (1989) and has never had a failure of ANY kind that was not a magazine malfunction. I did just replace the recoil spring with a new Wolff unit since the old one seemed to be getting a little weaker, but that was less than $10 and the rifle still functioned fine with the old one. (I was mainly concerned about beating up the action, not reliability.)
 
ss ranch

i sure have had lots of fun and security from my ss ranch. loved it then ---> still love it now. purty and sweet :D
 
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