Somebody give me the skinny on 6.5 Creedmoor

And let us not forget the 6.5x57. It was released about the same time as the 6.5x55, but as a sporting round from the start. It was never adopted as a military round.

 

The ELD-M bullet is a target bullet, not a hunting bullet.

 

As has been made abundantly clear, the Creedjesus is without peer.

 

It was designed as a target bullet, at which it excels. It has been used as a hunting bullet, with success, from the get-go.

 

It did. It just wasn’t a very big wind the first time around, and frankly, probably a bigger wind the second time, because of the 6.5 creed and because of the competition demand which elicited the Creed. The 260 was more popular ~10yrs ago than it ever was 25yrs ago…

 

… except… when it is…

 

I haven't seen the 6.5 CM Black with ELD-M. Is that a Grendel thing only?

 

Zoom in, box says 6.5 Creedmoor.

 

I did...it says Grendel. And so is the round in the pic.

 

https://www.academy.com/p/hornady-black-65mm-creedmoor-bthp-140-grain-rifle-ammunition-20-rounds

Okay the only ones I could find.

 

Thanks.
I shoot those all the time, both bolt action and AR-10. They have the ELD-M in 6.5 CM that comes in a white box, just not branded as "Black". Just a curiosity.

 

So people keep saying....

 

To prove itself to me that it will put deer down as well as the 308 is what I meant.I understand quite well that it's capable.

 

The ELD-M,the A-Max and the Sierra Matchking are all target bullets,but those along with some of the Berger target bullets do quite well on deer size game,especially at longer ranges.The ELD-M that I used in my 6.5 did very well as far as what it did to the deer I shot with it at a measured 300 yards.The lungs were basically pudding,but the heart was intact,possibly that's why she made it about 100 yards before piling up.I've used these target designated bullets on a fair number of deer and they've never failed for me yet.Keep in mind that when I'm using the match bullets,it's in open country and I somehow manage to pick my shots and put the bullet where it belongs.The rifles that I use for more woods type hunting use proven hunting bullets like the Partition and the Sirocco.

 

No bullet manufacturer recommends using target ammo for hunting, it creates too narrow of a wound channel. Rather not give certain groups of individuals more ammunition to make our lives difficult by using the wrong ammo for harvesting game.

Been watching some unscientific shooting videos comparing 6.5 Creedmoor vs .308. The real advantages that 6.5 gives is less adjustments at range, bucks the wind better, and less felt recoil. .308 does hit targets with more authority at the same ranges.

 

If you are wanting to shoot a very accurate bullet have you thought about the ELD-X line from Hornady? I know a buddy who actually uses the ELD-X in competition as his rifle shoots it so well. He also hunts with it and it has performed well for him.

 

Since no one I saw specifically answered the highlighted portion, I'll answer the question based on my own hunting experiences.

Bottom Line Up Front: He is FOS, as you put it.

In the almost 30 years I've been shooting deer and various other ungulates, and excluding the ones shot using my preferred high neck/head shots which has had a 100% DRT track record regardless of caliber, I have had about a 50/50 split of animals that were DRT vs running some distance and those have almost zero correlation to the caliber, bullet, or impact velocity. And I'll add that I have never used a 6.5 CM on any animal, but have used the 6.5x55 on 2 deer and 1 feral pig and 6.5x47 on 1 deer, so I have some idea how the CM would perform.

The very first deer I ever shot was shot at about 40ish yards in almost the dead center of his lungs using a 30-30 loaded with a cast 170 grain bullet over, if I remember correctly, 12 grains of Unique for a muzzle velocity of around 1,500 fps and that little six point couldn't have dropped faster if he had been hit with a howitzer.

Contrast that with the deer that ran the furthest, an older doe who was shot using a 7RM shooting Winchester Supreme Ballistic Silvertips (anyone remember those? what a work of art) at around 100 yards so impact velocity would be around 3,000 fps. She ran at a full sprint for a bit over 250 yards until she jumped the fence line and collapsed. While dressing her out, I basically poured a chunky soup of her lung and heart out of her chest cavity.

To be specific concerning the aforementioned 3 deer and 1 pig killed with some flavor of 6.5 bullet, two of the deer dropped in their tracks and the third deer ran about 50 yards, well actually more like he jumped at the sound of the shot and then pranced around in a circle for a couple seconds before dropping. The pig ran about 75 yards and then holed up in some bush for a bit before dying.

 

Classic BS that folks seem to love saying online…

 

These were all taken with Hornady 6.5 140 gr BTHP Match

 

I always thought that old time target bullets blew apart easily. FMJ’s would punch a hole without expanding.

Then again, maybe some target bullets did have thick jackets. Dunno

Back in the 60’s I had a .22-50 that I hand loaded for. The store didn’t have varmint bullets so I got target bullets. Salesman swore up and down they would blow apart just like regular varmint bullets. I recovered more than one groundhog that had a .22 hole going in and going out. Other ones had large exit holes, whether due to expansion or tumbling I have no idea

 

ELD-X is fine, but actual match target ammo is not recommended

 

What are the construction differences between the ELDM and ELDX, and how does that translate to a narrow wound channel on the M?

 

This is from Berger. https://bergerbullets.com/faq-items...ot recommend that,shot placement is not ideal.

 

This is also from Berger…



105 Berger Hybrids…