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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by xxjumbojimboxx, Dec 31, 2012.

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  1. xxjumbojimboxx

    xxjumbojimboxx Member

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    Can somebody say something that will make me feel better. I feel like everyone I personally know is for guns, and gun ownership. But the media keeps pressing bans and restrictions. I live in texas, so that may be a little bit skewed, but I can't help but already feel defeated... What can we do? I feel like the government can do whatever it feels, and there's nothing we can do but shoot at them. That's too rash for me. I dont know how I'd react if someone came to my house and asked me to surrender my guns.

    Somebody please enlighten me as to what we can do, and how to go about doing it.

    Or at least give me some good proof that the people of this country wont allow it to happen. :confused:
     
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    We need to just wait a little longer and see what happens. Feinstein throws out her stupid legislation every time and makes a big deal about it but it has failed to see the light of day so far. Obummer has been real quiet so far until this last week and he figures the time is right and he has nothing to loose at this point. You have to remember that Congress is the place laws are passed and everyone on all the blogs is saying they are writing their Congress folks about the situation. Lot of gun control polls running and they are loosing on all of the ones I've seen. If so many people support gun control, ask yourself why guns are selling so fast right now. The "problem" with guns is mainly in the northern part of the country where people are stacked together in public housing, getting the govt. check monthly, and listening to the agenda driven media. Granted, we are going to have a war to fight over it but it is winnable and we have done it before. If nothing else, this ought to make folks consider more carefully who they vote for in the future. This is a very devisive issue but the world isn't coming crashing to an end just yet. Even the Mayans were wrong.
     
  5. xxjumbojimboxx

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    Im from massachusettes and can attest to otherwise as far as the political agenda is concerned. None of my family (on my dads side anyways :) ) are leeches, and many of them own guns. They all make considerably more then me as well, and im no chump. Either way I see the rest of your points... Ive never voted. Ever, because growing up in massachusettes its pointless. My state was democrat no matter what. Here in texas, were republican, no matter what. But next time around, I'm voting. I dont care how pointless it seems.
     
  6. Greggo

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    Everybody Must Act Now!

    This is what we should all do immediately!

    Contact you Representative today:

    http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

    Contact your Senators:

    http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


    I contacted my Senators and Representatives yesterday.

    Diane Feinstein and the anti-gun machine have already introduced the gun ban legislation, and it will be rammed through Congress and signed by the President if we do not Stand As One and act today!!


    Please all of you, they are going to ban most of our guns if we don't stand together and act now!
     
  7. Trent

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    Say something to make you feel better? No. But a piece of advice.

    After you're done writing letters and calling reps, get in good physical shape and train more. Regardless of what happens you'll feel better about yourself, knowing you are better prepared.
     
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    Never enter a fight with the attitude you are going to get defeated. Have you ever heard a boxer say he was afraid of his opponent and feared he was going to lose the upcoming fight?

    Get educated on the issues, contact your representatives, and use your vote effectively. You may not in the end win every fight but you will feel good that you gave it your all.

    Use fear to your advantage; it will strengthen your resolve.
     
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    Work toward ,and hope, for the best , prepare for the worst . That's realy the only thing we can do at times like this.

    The anxiety you feel is not unique to just you , many of us are concerned that out of emotion, and want for power over us , there will come more bad law.

    This is on top of many other concerns over the direction our government has been taking. Terrible economic policy, lack of enforcement of our immigration laws, systematicaly working against the Bill of Rights, not just the 2nd, but others as well. Stay informed, stay prepared, do all you can to prevent the weasels in our government from getting total control. Vote , and make your voice known .

    PS: If you have not joined the NRA - do so ! Or the organization of your choice that is working for us on 2nd amendment issues.
     
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    Getting involved gives me hope. Call your reps' offices and tell them what you want them to do and not do. Then call them back in two days and repeat. It'll get you through the day.
     
  11. Trent

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    Anyone who has ever got in to a fight who says they weren't afraid is either lying to you or psychotic. Fear is the catalyst that drives a man to take action. It's hard-wired in to our most basic functions.

    What this man is feeling right now is threats from a source with no identifiable vector. It's the same thing that causes a little jolt of adrenaline during a storm when the tornado sirens go off here in the Midwest. We hear the alarm, get the family under cover, then turn our eyes to the sky, not knowing if, when, or where it's coming from. Senses become immediately alert and snap in to focus. When a threat we cannot stop is identified, we take shelter, then if necessary, take action.

    Bravery is being able to take cognitive action in the face of a threat, while feeling fear. Fear causes a fight/flight/freeze reaction in animals. Some deer will flee an approaching car. Some will turn and aggressively run straight at it. While others will just look at the headlights, frozen in place, unable to react.

    A plan of action, training, allows you to alter your fight/flight/freeze response. You essentially "reprogram" yourself to trigger a conditioned response so that you are able to take a set of actions without conscious thought - it allows us to respond with immediate action when faced with a threat.

    In fact, these "immediate action drills" are hammered in to our shooting disciplines and called exactly that. They exist so that we do NOT freeze or fumble when faced with adverse conditions. Gun jams. Proper training allows you to respond.

    Firearms training is not enough to prepare you for what may happen down the road though. Your wits, your ability to analyze and adapt, are also important. Write a letter. Tear it up. Write it better. You learn about yourself, about what makes you, in fact, YOU, while you go through this process. I often learn about myself while writing. I gain a better understanding of who I am, and what I believe in, as I hone and reinforce these beliefs by exercising a keyboard.

    Just as I hone my ability at the range.

    Use this opportunity to understand who you are. You are nervous. Why? Address the underlying issue inside of yourself, so that you can set that unease aside and focus.

    Most of all; we're not at war yet, so enjoy life. Do not preoccupy yourself so much about what MIGHT happen that you reduce your quality of life.
     
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    Hang in there Jumbo... Look, my sister-in-law is a die hard " I love Obama" person. BUT... she CCW and a shooter and don't want a ban on anything gun related. There are alot like her out there. More than you know....
     
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    That is like...

    trying to find someone that will admit they voted for obummer.....chris3
     
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    I work with a guy that I would have bet was a "full on gun supporter".
    However, in the last two weeks he has made statements and set "posture" that put him in a surprisingly anti-gun position. I was caught flat footed. I've tried to dilute his attitude with carefuly worded arguments...but I don't know I've made much headway.

    Write your elected office holders with concise, one page letters! Rewrite it several times to make SURE it says what you're thinking clearly! I know this is the "digital age" but send a hand written, signed, personal letter. It carries weight.

    Mark
     
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    wow - people need to vote. Outcome be damned; vote.
     
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    THAT is great advice, Trent. I find myself performing all kinds of mental gymnastics about what could happen.
     
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    It's aggravating and disheartening hearing so many uninformed people crowing about how anybody with two brain cells to rub together knows gun control laws are the answer to everything and opposing restrictions means you're putting your guns ahead of the lives of children.

    Don't buy into it. They're feeling empowered right now, but we know how clueless they are and we just need to seize every opportunity to point out how wrong they are. Silence implies consent. Fight back.
     
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    American gun owners are the largest armed force in the world. That always makes me feel better. I think the ones who have the job of enforcing disarmament should be feeling sick right now.
     
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    The atmosphere after the Connecticut shooting is basically chaos,paranoia, and an opportunity for politicians to take advantage of the horrific events that occurred to get themselves elected again to office based on what research shows and the sentiment of the people is right now as emotions run high. They don't care about anything other than to strenghten thier foothole to another few years in office.

    When the dust settles and emotions are all once in check, the reality is that gun free zones will continue to become magnets for the psycholigically deranged individual that knows that he or she can cause the most damage because the threat to them is non-existant.

    I would like to quote Masaad Ayoob in reference to the Colorado shootings at a theater that banned firearms. After investigating the incidence it was found that their were theaters that were closer to where the shooter lived and much larger but the shooter decided to go out of his way and decided to go to the theater that promised him a less threat to his intent, in this case the theater banned firearms.

    Mr. Ayoob nailed this with his statement and I quote him: "When you make potential rescuers unwelcome, do not blame those potential rescuers for not being there when the disaster happens and the death toll mounts, because what could have stopped the killing has been banned from your establishment."
     
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    I've come to terms with the idea that legislation goud happen again our rights, I'm also comfortable in knowing that there are lots of other folks on the demo/anti side, who, when it comes to guns, support our causes. What I'm not comfortable with it the fact that I know that deep down inside, if someone were to propose that they were within right to take my property, that I would defend it as though it were my livelyhood. Thats my problem I guess. War is never a first option... Never should this country ever pit brother against brother at is has done in the past. ... But if we did? That's what's pulling at my heartstrings... Over something so stupid... i dunno. I've had a few drinks...

    Happy new year all. Thanks for reading.
     
  21. Lex Luthier

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    Some of us live in very liberal areas. The best thing I can do some days is keep my mouth shut and my ears open. Lefties love to "express" themselves and often make for very entertaining verbal engagement. I wouldn't write to my leftist politicians if you paid me.
     
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    I feel the same everyone i know is progun
     
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