Something with more generous eye relief?

[Howland937]

Currently have a Vortex DB 4-12x scope mounted on my Ranch target rifle. It's as far back in the rings as possible and entirely uncomfortable to shoot. I'd read after the fact that budget Vortex scopes aren't very generous with their eye relief. So, is there anything at a similar price point that would be a better option?

After 2 years of being on the back burner, I decided it's time to figure out if I'm going to end up keeping this rifle or not. Don't wanna spend $500+ on a scope for a rifle that I may well never be happy with.

 

[Space Ghost]

I ended up with a Bushnell Banner 3x9 on my 6.5x55 Mauser for that very reason... it's generous eye relief. Don't remember the measurement, but it's like 6 inches or so.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

Perhaps something like these would help?
Amazon.com : Monstrum Offset Cantilever Picatinny Scope Rings | 1 inch Diameter | Black : Sports & Outdoors

 

[Howland937]

Perhaps something like these would help?
Amazon.com : Monstrum Offset Cantilever Picatinny Scope Rings | 1 inch Diameter | Black : Sports & Outdoors

The problem I have is with the fact that is uses the Ruger integrated ring mounts and Ruger specific rings. I went through about 4 sets trying to get the right height because their chart doesn't list my rifle.
It's mostly been a headache, which is probably why it sat for 2 years up until last week.

 

[LiveLife]

Don't wanna spend $500+ on a scope

Bushnell Banner 3x9 ... generous eye relief ... like 6 inches

+1.

Most rifle scopes have 3" - 3.5" eye relief and some 4".

How about Bushnell Banner 2 Extended Eye Relief models with 6" eye relief within your budget at $90? - https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1009529795/

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

That is a gorgeous rifle. I see how the off set rings wont help.

 

[jmr40]

Generally speaking, Leupold has the most generous eye relief. As long as you stay with a 3-9X or lower power many have close to 5" on the low end and just under 4" on 9X. The greater the magnification the less eye relief you have.

The VX-Freedom line is around $300. You don't want a sub-$200 scope.

Some scopes have a constant eye relief of around 4". And to me 4" is plenty

 

[Howland937]

I may very well try out one of the Banner 2's, at least long enough to figure out the rifle.

You don't want a sub-$200 scope.

You're right about that, but I'm upside down in this thing already by the time I blew $150 on rings I couldn't use and another $175 for the scope that's on it. Fortunately I have another rifle on the way that I can (hopefully) use the Vortex scope on. If the Ruger shoots even halfway decent, I'll put a good scope on it later.

 

[LiveLife]

How about Bushnell Banner 2 Extended Eye Relief models with 6" eye relief within your budget at $90? - https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1009529795/

On sale for $78 - https://www.natchezss.com/bushnell-...multi-x-reticle-6-eye-relief-matte-black.html

 

[tbs]

https://shopruger.com/4KO-Offset-Medium-Scope-Ring-with-Stainless-Finish/productinfo/90288/

 

[Axis II]

Leupold has the best eye relief I have found.

 

[Howland937]

https://shopruger.com/4KO-Offset-Medium-Scope-Ring-with-Stainless-Finish/productinfo/90288/

For some reason, the scope won't clear with medium rings even though it's listed as 40mm. Had to put high ones on it, and can't find a high offset Ruger ring in any color.

Which was after one set of medium the chart showed to work, one set of high that were mediums mislabeled, the set that came with it that were 2 different heights (Redhawk, M77) and a mislabeled extra high ring that wasn't the same as anything I already had. Even tried a clamp on Weaver type mount. Lol

 

[JFrank]

Most decent scopes I have looked at list all the specs including eye relief. Do a little research I believe you’ll agree

 

[BigBlue 94]

Someone makes a Picatinny rail that mounts to the integral ring mounts on the ranch rifles...

Here is one
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1008917229

 

[LoonWulf]

If you can find a burris timberline, it will give you the eye relief your looking for.
I think even with a rail youll likely be butting into the rear ring

 

[LiveLife]

Someone makes a Picatinny rail that mounts to the integral ring mounts on the ranch rifles...Here is one

That will definitely open up scoping options.

 

[Howland937]

Someone makes a Picatinny rail that mounts to the integral ring mounts on the ranch rifles...

Here is one
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1008917229

Yeah, that's what it was I'd bought. I'd said Weaver but it's the Picatinny type. It's a hollow base for using the open sights, which mine doesn't have. I could possibly try it with some offset rings. Didn't really consider that at the time.

 

[Nature Boy]

Leupold has the best eye relief I have found.

I agree

 

[Varminterror]

Eye relief and eyebox are independent variables.

Which do you really need?

 

[Blkhrt13]

Wouldn’t that be well for a scout rifle scope? They have long eye relief.

 

[Howland937]

Eye relief and eyebox are independent variables.

Which do you really need?

Whichever doesn't make my neck hurt from having to creep so far into it.

 

[greyling22]

I was going to suggest the same pic rail idea, https://www.amazon.com/NcSTAR-Ruger-MINI14-Picatinny-Scope/dp/B01BO37QNU but flip it around backwards to extend to your wrist instea of the barrel. it's not a long term solution, but it's a cheap way to use your existing scope and test accuracy. you'll need some rings too. here are some cheapo's. https://www.amazon.com/Monstrum-Pre...ds&sprefix=accusync+rings,sporting,82&sr=1-22

 

[Varminterror]

Wouldn’t that be well for a scout rifle scope? They have long eye relief.

There’s just as much problem if a person uses a scout scope with 7-9” or 12” of eye relief when their eye is at 4” as there is when they have a conventional scope with only 3” of eye relief…

 

[Howland937]

I ended up picking up one of these...
Cabela's multi-turret 3-12x40. It's the "caliber specific" for .243, which now sits atop my .223.

It sits farther back so it feels better, and should help somewhat with my neck discomfort. Reg price $200, display model closeout price $80. Worth a try anyway.

Any reason I can't just sight it in at 100 yards and ignore all the extra stuff? Still plan on a keeper scope later if it turns out to be a keeper rifle.

 

[redneck2]

Don't wanna spend $500+ on a scope for a rifle that I may well never be happy with.

But, f you sell that rifle and keep the scope, you are then required to buy a replacement. I think having a $500 scope with no rifle falls into some criminal category. Certainly a crime against humanity