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Southern AZ Shoot and Clean Up

Discussion in 'Rallying Point and Range Discussions' started by sumpnz, Jul 21, 2004.

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  1. sumpnz

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    I've tossed an idea around a little with LennyJoe, and he's up for it. That pit that we shot at last time has gotten pretty disgusting and I was thinking that a combined THR Tucson Shoot and Cleanup would be a good thing to do.

    It's way too flippin' hot to do it right now, but in order give enough time to get enough people to commit, and to let the weather cool off a bit, I was figuring sometime between Labor Day weekend and early October would be the best time to do this.

    I would like to get at least 8, preferably 12+ people to commit to this project. Once we set a date that 8 or more of us can agree on, I will try to contact the local TV and newspaper folks to get some publicity out of the event. Show the anti's and (more importantly) the indifferent majority that we care about keeping the desert clean, and hopefully forestall their efforts to shut down wildcat range shooting.

    My vision for this project will be that we would meet at the Vail pit in the early morning and spend how ever long it takes to clean up the area. If we have a dozen people working I can't imagine it taking much more than a few hours. Once we've either filled up all pickups that are present, or the area is as clean as we can get it (which ever comes first), the pickups will head to the Los Reales land fill and dump all the junk we pick up. It's $4/vehicle to get into the land fill. If we have 12 people and 3 pickups, that's only $1 each. After that is done, we would spend however long we all felt like shooting. Then, once we've policed our brass, and cleaned up the remnants of our targets, either there, or if my wife is OK with it, at my house (just a couple miles from the pit) kick back with hamburgers, hot dogs, grilled chicken, and some beer. If we do that at the pit, I'll bring my gas grill out there.

    So, what say you all? People from Phoenix, Benson, and Flagstaff are also most welcome to come out too. Or, better yet, organize Shoot and Cleanups in your areas too and get some wider publicity out of the deal.
     
  2. Lennyjoe

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    My family will be more than happy to help. I will also help out on the grubb and the drinks.

    But one standing order. No beer till the guns are cleaned up and put away. I wont budge on that one.

    I agree, the darn desert out here is filthy with litter.

    Its unbelievable how much litter there is out there.

    Expecially out where I hunt.

    But thats from all the Southerners heading north.
     
  3. wasrjoe

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    I live up near Phoenix, however, for something like this I will see what I can do to make it.
     
  4. sumpnz

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    Me neither.

    I'll try to PM a few Tucson guys and point them over here. If we can get it going near term, great, but I'm still thinking that Labor Day or later is going to be needed to get enough people out there.

    Spread this around, and lets try to get a whole party going out there.
     
  5. WhoKnowsWho

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    Sounds good to me!
     
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    Very good idea - set the date, and I should be able to come help you guys out.

    Suggestion: does anyone know if they can get access to several heavy-duty garden rakes and snow shovels, and ideally some 50-gallon drums for the truck-beds and a couple of short stepladders to stand on while dumping the shovel-loads into the drums inside the truck-beds? What would also help greatly would be a sturdy wood frame with a couple of layers of stout wire mesh/chickenwire to use as a sieve for separating the trash from the dirt.

    Work hard if you have to; work smart if you can. ;)
     
  7. sumpnz

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    If somebody comes up with the wire mesh, I can make the frames.
     
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    I have one heavy duty all steel garden rake. And a normal shovel and normal rake.
     
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    So can we get a head count for the moment? Please include all spouses, girlfriends, children, friends, dogs, etc that will be coming.

    Also ideas on dates? I would like to suggest sometime during the Labor Day weekend as most of us should be off work, and that kind of timing might work in our favor for publicity.

    Spead this around to anyone you know that might be willing to help out, especially other THR members.
     
  10. Lennyjoe

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    3 here. Myself, my son and my buddy Don.

    Possibly 2 more. Will contact them this weekend.
     
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    I'm willing. You can add at least 2 here.
     
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    Once you get a date I will be able to say yes or no.
     
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    I'm suggesting sometime over the Labor Day Weekend. Maybe Labor Day itself. What do the rest of you think of that?
     
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    Labor day weekend is not a good idea.

    I say that cause we are going camping and Im sure others will take advantage of the long holiday weekend to do other things with the family instead of cleaning up the range.

    I suggest 18 Sept or even the 19th after we visit the gunshow down at the Fairgrounds.

    That way we can stock up on ammo :D
     
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    OK. I just figured that with the holiday weekend we'd all be off work, but I like the idea of meeting up at the gun show and then the next day (so we can take advantage of the coolness of the morning) meet at the pit and get to work. Or, meet up at the pit the morning of the 18th and get to work. Then on the way back from the dump stop in at the gunshow and get the ammo for the shooting session.

    Anybody got better ideas?
     
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    Meeting at the pit the morning after the gun show is my vote. I will be working the Friday night before the show, doing anything after might be a bit much. I also have a possible 4 other people that would be interested in coming, 2 which work with me that Friday night too.

    Let's see what works for everyone else too.
     
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    So we go to the gunshow Saturday and stock up on ammo and stuff.

    Sunday morning when its cool we get to work. After the work is done, we stoke up the grill and waste all the ammo we purchased at the gunshow.

    Hows that sound?

    Im open to anything.
     
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    Sounds fine for me. I may be able to bring a buddy - not sure though. Now I just have to see if I'll have money around that time.
     
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    wasrjoe, If you don't have the money for more ammo, just bring what you got, and I'm sure we can find a way for you to get enough trigger time between the rest of us.

    WRT the food, do we want to fire up the grill and eat while out there shooting, or do we want to head back to my place (spitting distance from the pit) afterwards for the food. Reason I ask is I know at least some of us will want a beer or two and until the guns are put away that isn't going to happen. Also, meeting at my place will be a little easier for me in the sense that I wouldn't have to load up the grill and take it out there.

    I'll also talk to my neighbor's brother in law as he works for KOLD and see what kind of publicity we might be able to get out of this. I went to the public meeting back in April or May and there's a certain level of support in the public to shutting down all shooting on public land in this state (or at least Pima County) and getting the word out that we care about the state of the land that we shoot on will go a long way towards preserving our ability to legally shoot out there.
     
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    If your willing to volunteer your Casa then that would be the best bet.
     
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    I'll have to make sure SWMBO doesn't object, which I doubt will be a problem.

    Just so y'all are clear, it'll be BYO for food and beer. I can always pull out a few extra burgers, so if you get there and realize you forgot the food don't worry, but I can't feed a dozen guys.
     
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    Did you guys do this last weekend? Wouldn't you have a problem with other people out there to shoot on a weekend morning? I was out there yesterday and it didn't seem too bad, just a couple of shotup objects here and there -- nice green grass growing in the bottom. It's a nice spot though and worth cleaning... who found it again? :D :D :p ;)
     
  23. Lennyjoe

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    Maybe someone else did some cleaning but it wasnt me.

    Think we had it nailed down for the 19th of Sept.

    That way we can go to the gunshow on the 18th and buy boo-koo ammo:D
     
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    We're currently set for the 19th. I spoke with my neighbor's BIL last night and he's going to talk to the people he works with at KOLD about covering the event. I'll post here when I know more about that. Don't expect to hear much before next week on that score unless they get back to me in the day or so. Looks like I'll be heading to Deleware for a funeral this weekend (an uncle). To get an affordable airfare it looks like it'll be a Thursay-Tuesday affair.
     
  25. Lennyjoe

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    Sorry to hear about your loss.

    Have a safe trip.
     
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