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Soy wax

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by cp11, Mar 12, 2013.

  1. cp11

    cp11 New Member

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    Has anyone tried useing soy wax instead of paraffin to make wads?
     
  2. Gatofeo

    Gatofeo Member

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    Not tried it.
    I have scads of canning paraffin, and it works well in the recipe named after me: Gatofeo No. 1 Lubricant.
    Never saw a need to change.
    I've experimented with different tallows, but mutton tallow has proven -- by far -- to be the best I've found.
    I tried wax from old candles instead of canning paraffin when I first began experimenting. The resulting lubricant wasn't nearly as good, and because each candle had a different composition it was hard to duplicate the lubricant from batch to batch.
    I stuck with canning paraffin because it's readily available, inexpensive, works great and helps create the same lubricant each batch.
    But I've heard that soy wax is good. I think it's sold as granules in craft stores. I guess soy wax is what's left after they squeeze the sauce out of it. :p
     
  3. Prairie Dawg

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    Pearl Lube, an invention of Dick Dastardly is a mixture of One part container soy wax, One part toilet bowl ring and 1/2 part of vegetable shortening. Adjust softness by adding or subtracting vegetable shortening. It is used primarily as a bullet lube for black powder applications but also works well as an over ball lube on cap and ball pistols, a wad lube for cap and ball pistols, and as an arbor/base pin lube on cap and ball pistols.

    Personally, I've been using Gatofeo's lube for years -- Great stuff -- Thanks Cat!
    --Dawg
     
  4. Hammerdown77

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    I don't think the toilet bowl ring stuff works anymore. None of it I've found is still made from beeswax; it's all synthetic, petroleum based.
     
  5. cp11

    cp11 New Member

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    Not tried it.
    I have scads of canning paraffin, and it works well in the recipe named after me: Gatofeo No. 1 Lubricant.
    Never saw a need to change.
    I've experimented with different tallows, but mutton tallow has proven -- by far -- to be the best I've found.
    I tried wax from old candles instead of canning paraffin when I first began experimenting. The resulting lubricant wasn't nearly as good, and because each candle had a different composition it was hard to duplicate the lubricant from batch to batch.
    I stuck with canning paraffin because it's readily available, inexpensive, works great and helps create the same lubricant each batch.
    But I've heard that soy wax is good. I think it's sold as granules in craft stores. I guess soy wax is what's left after they squeeze the sauce out of it.
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    No disrespect to you at all. I have yousd your mix but I have looked all over town for it and can,t find it. I was worried about soy wax gumming things up. I'm still new at this and learning.
     
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  6. Noz

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    The idea of bad results from petroleum products in black powder lube has been over sold. The problem is the level of refinement. I am not a petroleum engineer and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn during recorded history but I find the the soy wax, toilet bowl ring, vegetable shortening lube works quite well for me and a couple of pards for whom I make bullets. I even use it for arbor lube on my 1860s.

    I tried it first as a "cheap" alternative to beeswax and mutton tallow. Worked.

    Only bad result came from a toilet bowl ring that had fiber strengthener in it. Bad stuff. I fortunately had made only a small batch. I threw it away.
     
  7. mykeal

    mykeal Senior Member

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    Misunderstood, yes. Oversold, no.

    Swab your barrel good with some regular gun oil and then take a few shots.

    It does matter what level of distillation created the particular petroleum product you subject to combustion in your barrel. High distillates like mineral oil and cutting oil will fully combust, while low distillates like common household oils leave behind a layer of partially burned hydrocarbons affectionately known as tar.
     
  8. kwhi43@kc.rr.com

    kwhi43@kc.rr.com Senior Member

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    I always put one of those blue tablets in the water tank on the toilet. Turns
    the water blue. Put my pistol in the bowl, give it a couple flushes, presto!
    clean. Tried the cat once, but didn't turn out real well.
     
  9. cp11

    cp11 New Member

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    Thanks for the help guys. I looked at the melting temps of paraffin vs soy wax and the soy wax melted about 10* lower. That's why thought they may work about the same. So far I,m down to making my own BP, wads, and lead balls thanks to everyone's help here.
     

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