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Spikes Tactical ar

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by xxxleafybugxxx, Feb 8, 2012.

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  1. xxxleafybugxxx

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    Looking at an spikes tactical m4. Basic model for just over 1,000. Is this a good ar platform? Has a full rail, and a lifetime warranty.
    How accurate is this rifle? Also, is it milspec?
    What are your experiences?
     
  2. justice06rr

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    Spikes is a good brand. I have an AR with a Spikes lower.

    Which basic model are you talking about? You should be able to get a basic model Spikes AR for around $750ish, unless you are looking at the ones upgraded with quadrails etc.
     
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    Yeah, $1000 is not the basic model.

    Keep in mind, you'll have to wait a couple months to get it.
     
  4. justice06rr

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    And btw they are very accurate. I bought my Spikes AR used for $700 in excellent condition. First time I went to the range and shot it with Iron sights and was hitting bullseye's consistently at 25 yards... and that is saying something because I'm still new to the AR platform and have very little training.

    Of course, accuracy is relative and highly depends on the shooter. but the rifle is more accurate than I am. It is also milspec.
     
  5. greyling22

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    I just sold my spikes m4 le middy upper. Only et it go because I wanted to get into a 20" varmint style. The spikes ran fine with wolf, pmc, handloads, everything I tried. I was getting about a about 1-3" groups depending on what I was shooting. good handloads did retty well, wolf did worse. Some f that was me being a bad shot I'm sure. I'd say they are plenty accurate and good to go.
     
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    Spike's assembles a good AR, good CS, great warranty. They have a mil-spec bolt and carrier and that's the heart of the rifle. Spike's is very active in the industry forum at arfcom.
     
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    In the current market it sounds a bit high. Spikes is a very good AR, but i would shop around some more. Maybe look at the Colt 6920, PSA or build yourself.
     
  9. xxxleafybugxxx

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    Its so hard yo find and ar and stick with it. Because everyone is saying something different.
    for the colt equivalent, it to costs about 200 more.
    Plus, spikes has lifetime warranty, which colt does not.
    And its milspec. The answer seems obvious
     
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    All true. I like spikes, but $1000 seems high regardless of the warranty. I wouldn't spend $1000 on a spikes right now.

    At times DSG Arms has a spikes tactical upper for $485 and a complete spikes tactical lower for $269. The upper comes with a bolt and charging handle add shipping.
     
  11. xxxleafybugxxx

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    Go tigers, I was thinking a bout that. Just buying an upper, and lower... Then I would still have the warranty. Seems like a better idea too me
     
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    If you have to have a rail and buy the rifle complete you won't find many if any below $1000. I would personally buy the upper if your dead set on that one http://www.spikestactical.com/new/z/upper-556-16-m4-le-w7-bar-rail-fsp-p-660.html

    Then you can build the lower using a spikes stripped lower from aimsurplus for 80 and which ever lpk and stock kit you want for around 200. Total cost would put you at around 900 saving almost $200 from the full rifle.

    Another option would be to order a similier upper from aim or joebobs like this and save another $50-60 http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Spike_s_Tactical_16_Midlength_LE_Upper_w_9_BAR_R_p/sp-stu5035-r9s.htm

    I just finally got my upper in from spikes and i think it was worth the wait

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    Kyle, it looks real good. I kind of have the mind set where I should keep the entire rifle the same brand. I don't know if I need the full rail, but the m4 I was looking at didn't have that long of a rail. I also like the dark earth parts of it.
     
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    Spending that extra money for a full rail isn't worth it too me. I don't need to buy a $800 dollar upper. Can't you buy partial rails for half as much? If nothing else, I can just settle for a normal upper with a top rail for optics. Don't need to break the bank for something I won't use to its full potential.
     
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    So let me ask you guys this... do you think it would be wise to order a complete upper form spikes (or some other company that sells spikes uppers) and then buy a stripped lower (spikes), with parts and trigger kit (all spikes)?
    I would like to keep the rifle the same brand through and through.
    Plus, it would seem better for warranty purposes.
    And I like spikes over colt for two reasons...
    -I hear good things about both, and spikes is still milspec
    -Also, spikes offers a better warranty.
     
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    If you've got a K to drop on an AR, then there's no reason not to get a Colt ($945 for a 6920). Then shoot it until a part/accessory is the limiting factor (vs the shooter), and upgrade as needed.
     
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    Spooky, I've looked at the colts. But they're both milspec, but spikes has the lifetime warranty? Why would I go with the product with a lesser warranty?
    I've been back and forth many, many times on which I thought I was going to buy.. and its reasons like this. I get set, then somebody suggests something they think is better. There is no true answer.
    For spikes, I can get a rifle that has a rail system for less then I can for colt.
     
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    Here is a comparison. Look at these rifles.
    http://www.spikestactical.com/new/z...2.html?zenid=e5c42c7973e5f4db98c17af792ad6c5f

    http://dsgarms.com/ProductInfo/CO6940.aspx

    What makes the Colt worth $150 more? Besides the name? I don't care about that.
    Or I could just go with a spikes regular m4, with no rails and spend about 950. The top rail is important though. Realistically, I probably don't need the monolithic rail. I wouldnt use it for anything besides a bipod.
    SPIKES AS A LIFETIME WARRANTY
    COLT HAS A LIMITED YEAR WARRANTY
     
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    4 posts in a row. That must be a record :)
    If I did conform and get a normal 6920 for 950, does this come with the top rial that I could mount an optic?
     
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    I guess im the only Spikes dissenter.

    Problems I have had:

    Very gritty 10.5" upper. Feels like sand in the action. Needs to be spotless and dripping to run. 50 rounds suppressed or 150 rounds unsupressed and it starts to choke. Has extra slot in the barrel where they screwed up the milling for the FSB. Finish is sub par. And it only took em 12 weeks on a 9 week quote time.

    Out of spec lower. A modified magpul trigger guard was the only one that would fit. I tried 5 different ones. Milspec and after market.

    9mm mag block missing screws.

    Emails to Spikes: 3

    Phone calls to Spikes: 3

    Responses from Spikes: 0

    They started out as a good company making quality parts at an affordable price. Then they got too big too fast. QC is non existent. Customer service? Well let's just say I have given up.

    I work part time in a gun store that sells a lot of AR goodies and we no longer carry Spikes.

    They have cool T-shirts though.

    Buyer beware.

    Now my BCM uppers feel like the bolt is on ball bearings. On my 16" lightweight middy, it is sitting at 600 rounds suppressed with nothing more then a shot of CLP through the dust cover. It has only been cleaned once.....the initial cleaning and inspection when I first got it. Right now is just a test to see when/how/why it will choke.

    Eta: these experiences are just with my personal weapons. I don't have time for customer complaints.
     
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    45... Something I've been back and forth on.. and I believe it will continue until the day I buy my rifle.
    Should I build with a BCM upper?
    Or buy complete?
    I know I can build for a lot cheaper, but for some reason I think the gun will run smoother in general if I bought it complete. I hear only good from BCM, just not sure how accurate they are. What do you think?
     
  25. Fishbed77

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    I have a similar Spikes upper to the one the OP is looking at. Mine is an M4 LE with a 9" BAR rail. Spikes makes a fantastic product. Mine has been 100% reliable, and is one of the smoothest-cycling rifles I've ever shot. Accuracy is very good.

    By the way - it took all of 5 days to get mine after I ordered it. The key is to search various internet vendors to find what you want in stock.

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