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Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by dashootist, Feb 8, 2011.

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  1. dashootist

    dashootist Member

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    Do you usually pull the hammer slightly back and spin the cylinder after it is closed to ensure it will rotate freely?
     
  2. BP44

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    When i close the cyl. i rotate to lock though, funny i have never really thought about it 'till now:)
     
  3. earlthegoat2

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    Are you talking about checking for high primers?

    Or are you wondering when we are checking out a revolver to buy?
     
  4. ljnowell

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    No I wouldnt. I dont remember off hand what it is, but i was told by an old timer a long time ago that it isnt good for the gun. Something about that little click-click-click sound was something that would wear or some such. Take that with a grain of salt though, as I can do my own work on most semi autos, but I know nothing more than how to take off a sideplate and clean the gunk out of a revolver.
     
  5. cpirtle

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    He could have meant the movie version of spinning the cylinder while open then flipping the cylinder closed. Bad for a lot of reasons. As described for this thread I'm not sure why it would be bad other than increasing the wear a little.

    I have never done this with a DA revolver but I do it every time during CAS matches while shooting SA's, had a high primer lock me up in the middle of a stage once... only once. We needed a sometimes option ;)
     
  6. ljnowell

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    No, this was specifically that he warned me against, not the flicking shut. Heck, even I knew that one then, and I really didnt know much! Course, I was only about 12.
     
  7. Sam1911

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    I generally don't, but a lot of the better revolver competitors do.
     
  8. CajunBass

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    Nope. I've never even thought about doing it.
     
  9. 451 Detonics

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    I have done it every time I have loaded a revolver and even on my Action Pistol revolver, a 686, it has never done any damage...and that gun has had it done so many times I couldn't begin to count them...in 6 digits tho. It is the best way to make sure not only there isn't a high primer but also that there isn't another problem such as powder flakes under the star.

    I have also seen folks have an AD doing so...caution is advised.

    Using your wrist to flick the cylinder closed however is tough on the gun even tho it looks mall ninja cool in the movies.
     
  10. MrBorland

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    I'm pretty sure the OP's referring to a "check spin", rather than flipping the cylinder closed.

    My main CF revolvers are rendered DAO, so I don't (can't) check-spin. I routinely check spin my 10-shot 617 revolver, though. Tight chambers and even a little bit of crud make it likely not all rounds are fully seated, which can affect the DA pull. A check spin gets them all seated properly.

    Before doing a check spin at a match, though, I'd be sure to get the SO's approval first. And be sure to keep the muzzle down range.
     
  11. 451 Detonics

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    Why can't you spin check your DAO guns? I spin check mine the same as I do my DA/SA revolvers.
     
  12. ExMachina

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    How do you do this exactly? I've tried a few times but can't get it right. The degree to which you need to pull the hammer back seems like a very very narrow window. Too much or too little and "CLUNK",the cylinder locks (which is not a good sound, BTW)
     
  13. Sam1911

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    Gonna be a bit more difficult to do with a bobbed hammer.
     
  14. 451 Detonics

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    On a bobbed hammer gun I make sure the gun is pointed in a safe direction and with my thumb against the hammer pushing forward slightly I use the trigger to bring the hammer back till the cylinder releases...very easy to do but practice with an empty gun. I have been doing it so long it is automatic.
     
  15. Sam1911

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    Yup. As I said. "A bit more difficult."
     
  16. 451 Detonics

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    I don't find it difficult at all and do it every time i load my Model 12. I also spin check the cylinder using the trigger on my 642 which is completely hammerless. You just have to use caution. You can also spin check without completely closing the cylinder if that feels safer to you.
     
  17. Carl N. Brown

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    Generally, no. When handloading, I do inspect every cartridge to be sure there are no high primers. The only "spin check" I might do is when I am carrying a revolver on the mountain, to index the snake shot round as the first to fire.
     
  18. svtruth

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    Sounds like

    a violation of one of the four rules.
     
  19. Sam1911

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    To be fair, then so are several other fairly common handgun manipulation tasks. Like lowering the hammer on a non-decocker DA/SA auto. Or EVER deciding not to take a shot with an SA revolver or lever-action rifle.

    There's a right way (and probably quite a few wrong ways) to do it.
     
  20. cpirtle

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    In CAS this is handled by the rules. As long as you lower the hammer on an empty round or chamber you are safe, if you lower it on a live round it's a safety violation.
     
  21. Sam1911

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    Right, because of the way many historic firearms were designed. Very dangerous to have a firing pin resting against a primer.

    Modern DA revolvers don't risk firing pins hitting primers with a lowered hammer on a live round.
     
  22. rcmodel

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    Spin checking a SA after you load it makes it very difficult to insure the empty chamber ends up under the hammer.

    I have to assume if it spins when I "load one, skip one, load four, cock and lower the hammer" it will still spin when I go to shoot it.
    If you mess with the correct SA loading sequence and spin it afterwords, you nearly have to look down the barrel & front of the cylinder to make 100% sure the empty chamber is still under the hammer. Especially so with .22 RF SA's with recessed chamber rims, as you can't see them through the crack from the side..

    With DA revolvers?
    Every round I load is checked in a case guage and double checked for high primers, once during priming, and again in the case guage.
    If they fit in the case guage, I know they will work in every revolver I own.

    In short, spinning the cylinder is best left to TV & movie actors.

    rc
     
  23. cpirtle

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    But it is possible to not take a shot with an SA, happens fairly often in CAS. You just rotate the cylinder to the open chamber and gently let the hammer down. Of course you'd be doing that on the clock so you're usually better off to take the miss and move on.


    rcmodel, I agree 100% on the rimfire's, my point about doing it during competition is with centerfire only. I personally have had my gun lock on a high primer so skip loading didn't do the trick in that case. I'd say about 50% of the loaders at any given CAS match will spin their cylinder before closing the gate and lowering the hammer on the empty chamber, it's common practice.

    I don't have a problem finding the empty nor have a seen a centerfire that qualifies to shoot CAS where you could not see it, there could be SA's out there that are recessed that I'm not aware of. Generally speaking you just look perpendicular to the firing pin, if you see the top of 2 cartridges and clear daylight you're good. A minimum of two sets of eyes check every gun before leaving the loading table just to ensure safety.
     
  24. hogcowboy

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    I have to admit I do but I don't flick it shut. Now that it's been brought up, seems both would cause excess wear. Maybe I'll stop.
     
  25. texas bulldog

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    It's never even crossed my mind to do this. So, no, I don't do it.
     
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